16 crucified saviors, Kersey Graves - Bible Myths, Thomas William Doane

Steven Avery

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Is there any evidence or reasons to believe that Jesus was a copy of other pagan gods like Dionysus, Horus, Ishtar, etc... or is it just some internet conspiracy and I shouldn't take it seriously?

https://www.purebibleforum.com/inde...graves-bible-myths-thomas-william-doane.5501/

https://www.reddit.com/r/AcademicBi...here_any_evidence_or_reasons_to_believe_that/

The World's Sixteen Crucified Saviors (1875) by Kersey Graves (1813-1883)
was an early example of the genre.
The “scholarship” was terrible.
Another early one was:
Bible myths and their parallels in other religions: being a comparison of the Old and New Testament Myths and Miracles with Those of Heathen Nations of Antiquity, Considering Also Their Origin and Meaning (1882)
Thomas William Doane (1852-1885) -

https://www.facebook.com/groups/purebible/permalink/2013039475454598/

pagan virgin births, crucifixions, resurrections?
This came up on the Snopes forum, so I decided to comment. There is a lot more on this from some years back, however it has not come up before here on Facebook PureBible.
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Snopes on pagan religion stuff
https://www.facebook.com/.../permalink/2025817624200933/...
Steven Avery
Any claims from various religions about crucifixion, resurrection and virgin birth need verifiable sources from before the the 1st century. Else you can simply have syncretism, if there actually is an analogy to consider. Christian New Testament stories were very popular world-wide in the centuries after the circulation of the New Testament and incorporated into various myths and legends and pagan religions. Ergo, the need for verifiable sources from before the 1st century.
Lots of nonsense on these pagan religion was peddled in the 1800s by Kersey Graves (1813-1883) and Thomas William Doane (1852-1885). A humorous highlight was skeptics on the net reprinting Graves with a note that no claims should be accepted without independent verification. And Farrell Till (1933-2012) was one of many skeptics who got duped and published false claims about Buddha and others. He acknowledged the correction but refused to post a correction with the earlier article, claiming lack of access, which was questionable.
Since Dec 25 was a late add-on centuries after the apostolic times of the New Testament, it is laughably irrelevant, and was generally considered as a non-Christian popery holi-day. There is zero New Testament support for the date, and solid evidence against.
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The idea that Jesus’s death is modeled off of “Dying and Rising god” isn’t from the internet. It’s based off James Frazer’s the Golden Bough which was maybe the equivalent of… I don’t know… Sapiens or Guns, Germs, and Steel in the late 19th early 20th centuries, in the sense that it was academic book that tried to explain everything and became a cross over hit.

Apologetics Press
http://apologeticspress.org/the-non-crucified-non-saviors-of-the-world-973/

Where did the idea of the mythic Christ originate? Much of it began in the writings of two amateur Egyptologists named Godfrey Higgins (1772-1833) and Gerald Massey (1829-1907). Both wrote extensively on the idea of the mythic Christ. They claimed one parallel after another between the Bible and pagan mythology, making it appear as if the biblical writers borrowed stories wholesale from ancient tales. Almost all scholars today recognize that this approach is fundamentally flawed. For nearly all of the supposed parallels these two men discovered, scholars today say without hesitation that no genetic connection exists between the Bible and the myths these two men examined.
 

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Steven Avery
Even the people publishing Graves wrote this disclaimer:
“ATTENTION: The scholarship of Kersey Graves has been questioned by numerous theists and nontheists alike; the inclusion of his The World's Sixteen Crucified Saviors in the Secular Web's Historical Library does not constitute endorsement by Internet Infidels, Inc. This document was included for historical purposes; readers should be extremely cautious in trusting anything in this book.”

"readers should be extremely cautious in trusting anything in this book."


FRDB - 16 Crucified Pre-Christian Deities (2003)
https://bcharchive.org/3/thearchives/showthread849a.html?t=57660
 
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