Ambrose of Milan - earthly witnesses

Steven Avery

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Raymond Brown has him as an omitter

Ambrose of Milan refs:

[1.] “On Mysteries,” “De Mysteriis,” Chapter 4, Section 20 [MPL Vol. 16, Col. 394]
[2.] “On The Holy Spirit,” “De Spiritu Sancto,” Book 1, Chapter 6, Section 77 [MPL Vol. 16, Col. 725]
[3.] “On The Holy Spirit,” “De Spiritu Sancto,” Book 1, Chapter 13, Section 159 [= reference to 1st John 5:6].
[4.] “On The Holy Spirit,” “De Spiritu Sancto,” Book 3, Chapter 10, Section 67 [MPL Vol. 16, Col. 792]
[5.] “Exposition in Luke,” “Expositio Evangelii Secundum Lucam,” Book 10, Chapter 48, Section 5 [Last Verse] [MPL Vol. 15, Col. 1815-1816]

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Gavin Basil McGrath
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brandpluckt
the Comma Is absent from the writings of the following major Latin theologians: Hilary of Poitiers (d. 367) who wrote on the Trinity; Ambrose (d.. 397) who cited I John 5:7—8 four times; Leo the Great (d. 461); and Gregory the Great (d. 604).

Hugh Houghton on Latin omitters
https://books.google.com/books?id=CXQqCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA179
Ambrose, Rufinus, Augustine, Quodvultdeus, and other authors.

Grantley - RGA 126-127
And if the codices of the orthodox included this reading, why did Athanasius, Didymus, Gregory Nazianzen, Chrysostom, Theophylact, Cyril, Ambrose, Hilary and Augustine all fail to cite it against the Arians? “I do not know,” Erasmus sighed in resignation
 
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Ambrose - On the Mysteries
[1.] “On Mysteries,” “De Mysteriis,” Chapter 4, Section 20 [MPL Vol. 16, Col. 394]
https://books.google.com/books?id=goLYAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA52
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de Myst. iv. 20; Col. iv. 3 (aperiatur mihi ostium verbi), de Sacram. v. 3. 17 - (the order “water, blood, spirit” Snapp transposed order)
http://oll.libertyfund.org/index.php?Itemid=288&id=710&option=com_content&task=view
 
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https://books.google.com/books?id=YnEXAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA111
verse mislabeled in footnotes

Latin

On the Holy Spirit - Book 1 Ch VI 70 -
https://books.google.com/books?id=QSj3SOIttLMC&pg=PA12

On the Holy Spirit - Book 1 Ch VI 73 (says 79-80)
http://books.google.com/books?id=bj3b8aD3XtcC&pg=PA96

On the Holy Spirit - Book 3 III, 2,
http://books.google.com/books?id=zpUXAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA628

Book 3 III, X, 66-67 "quia tres sunt testes, spiritus aqua sanguis" - MANUSCRIPT DIFFERENCES - ONE IN CHRIST JESUS
http://www.monumenta.ch/latein/text...=1&PHPSESSID=8240aa2a677268dd7c390af6b4a300e0

On the Mysteries "quod aqua non mundat sine"
 
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There are three or four that have been listed as positive allusions

On the Holy Spirit - Book 1 Ch VI 80 - (like Fulgentius.. Mill needed translated) "deo patre, et christo esse spiritum sanctum cum per ipsum"
http://www.monumenta.ch/latein/text...=1&PHPSESSID=b0dc96877ccf90a0f7318764dbda39a4

In v. 32 "quod unus loquitur, tres loquuntur" - :
http://books.google.com/books?id=V1PYAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA459

These do not differ, but agree together, In the one that speaketh, three speak, for the voice of the Trinity is one
http://books.google.com/books?id=dJwCAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA372

Luke Chapter 21
What one of the divine Persons says, all three say; for the voice of the Trinity is only one
http://haydock1859.tripod.com/id87.html
http://books.google.com/books?id=tbwOAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA313

These three are not at variance, but agree ..because the voice of the Trinity is one [I John 5:7].
http://www.hocna.net/FILIOQUE.pdf
 
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● [Commentary on Nahum] But, even the blessed Ambrose reminds us, they are one [Trinity], not with the nature of
the same substance, but to the same of the mystery of operation. For "The Spirit," as the same one says (Lib. III
de Spirit. sanct., cap. 10) "renews the mind, the water is serviceable for the laver, and the blood refers to the
price. For the Spirit makes us sons of God by adoption, the water of the sacred font washes us, the blood of the
Lord redeems us. 'But these three there are that bear witness on earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the
blood.' (1 John 5:8) Another, therefore, is the invisible and another is the visible testimony that we obtain with the
spiritual sacrament." [Ambrose, On the Holy Spirit, Book 3.10; NPN02, vol 10.
<www.newadvent.org/fathers/34023.htm>] (Julian of Toledo, Commentary on Nahum; Translated by Jeroen
Beekhuizen, correspondence, August 2020)

○ Latin: Sed, ut nobis asserit beatus Ambrosius, unum sunt, non natura eiusdem substantiae, sed eiusdem
mysterii operatione. Nam « Spiritus, ut idem ait (Lib. III de Spirit. sanct., cap. 10), mentem revocat, aqua
perficit ad lavacrum, sanguis spectat ad pretium. (0730A) Spiritus per adoptionem nos filios Dei facit,
sacri fontis unda nos abluit, sanguis Domini nos redemit. 'Haec autem sunt tria, quae testimonium
dant in terra, spiritus, aqua, et sanguis’ (I Ioan. V, 8) . Alterum igitur invisibile, alterum visibile
testimonium sacramento consequimur spiritali.» [Ambrosius Mediolanensis, De Spiritu Sancto. Book 3,
chapter 10; Migne Latina, PL 16.792] (Iulianus Toletanus, Commentarius in Nahum; Migne Graeca, PG
96.0730A)

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Quoted by Lombard and Bede and Milano ms.
 

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Aurelius Ambrose (340-397 AD)
• Aurelius Ambrosius[a] (c. 340-397), better known in English as Ambrose (/aembrouz/), was an Archbishop of Milan who
became one of the most influential ecclesiastical figures of the 4th century. He was the Roman governor of Liguria and
Emilia, headquartered in Milan, before being made bishop of Milan by popular acclamation in 374. Ambrose was a
staunch opponent of Arianism. Ambrose was born into a Roman Christian family about 340 and was raised in Gallia
Belgica, the capital of which was Augusta Treverorum.[4] His father is sometimes identified with Aurelius Ambrosius,[5)[6]
a praetorian prefect of Gaul;[1] but some scholars identify his father as an official named Uranius who received an
imperial constitution dated 3 February 339 (addressed in a brief extract from one of the three emperors ruling in 339,
Constantine II, Constantius II, or Constans, in the Codex Theodosianus, book Xl.5).[7][8][9] His mother was a woman of
intellect and piety[10] and a member of the Roman family Aurelii Symmachi,[11] and thus Ambrose was cousin of the
orator Quintus Aurelius Symmachus. He was the youngest of three children, who included Marcellina and Satyrus (who is
the subject of Ambrose’s De excessu fratris Satyri), also venerated as saints.[12] There is a legend that as an infant, a
swarm of bees settled on his face while he lay in his cradle, leaving behind a drop of honey. His father considered this a
sign of his future eloquence and honeyed tongue. For this reason, bees and beehives often appear in the saint's
symbology. After the early death of his father, Ambrose went to Rome where he studied literature, law, and rhetoric. He
then followed in his father's footsteps and entered public service. Praetorian Prefect Sextus Claudius Petronius Probus
first gave him a place in the council and then in about 372 made him governor of Liguria and Emilia, with headquarters at
Milan.[1] In 286 Diocletian had moved the capital of the Western Roman Empire from Rome to Mediolanum (Milan).
Ambrose was the Governor of Aemilia-Liguria in northern Italy until 374, when he became the Bishop of Milan. He was a
very popular political figure, and since he was the Governor in the effective capital in the Roman West, he was a
recognizable figure in the court of Valentinian I. Ambrose was one of the four original Doctors of the Church, and is
the patron saint of Milan. He is notable for his influence on Augustine of Hippo. Ambrose studied theology with
Simplician, a presbyter of Rome.[10] Using to his advantage his excellent knowledge of Greek, which was then
rare in the West, he studied the Old Testament and Greek authors like Philo, Origen, Athanasius, and Basil of
Caesarea, with whom he was also exchanging letters.[15] He applied this knowledge as preacher, concentrating
especially on exegesis of the Old Testament, and his rhetorical abilities impressed Augustine of Hippo, who
hitherto had thought poorly of Christian preachers. Traditionally, Ambrose is credited with promoting”antiphonal
chant”, a style of chanting in which one side of the choir responds alternately to the other, as well as with
composing Veni redemptor gentium, an Advent hymn. (Ambrose. Wikipedia. <en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambrose>)

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• [Translator] Hincmar is explaining the Scriptural numbers of Solomon's temple. In the number ten he finds the
Decalogue. It has always been a tradition of some to assign the first three commandments to the first table, because they
relate to serving God, and the seven other commandments to the second table, because they relate to loving men.
Anyone who owns Calvin's Institutes can read his discussion of this matter as he even points back to Augustine, whereas
it is clear that this opinion is very old. Three commandments about serving God on One table should be a type of the
Trinity. This leads Hincmar to some thoughts on the number three in 1 John 5:8 which is where he records a song of
Ambrose. In this song it is evident that the first several "threes” are coming straight from Scripture. The first is a reference
to 1 John 5:7. The second is a reference to 1 John 5:8, referring to the three types (Latin species) of material that were at
the cross Spirit, water and blood yet being one redemption (Ambrose like many others compared 1 John 5:6-8 with John
19:30, 34). This is the phrase Hincmar refers to. The third is a reference to Jonah 1:17. The fourth is a reference to Daniel
3. The fifth is a reference to Isaiah 6:1. From then on the references begin to be more general or no longer related to
Scripture. (Jeroen Beekhuizen, correspondence, February 2020)

Ambrose Hymn : Christian Latin Hymns
• [Carl Weyman] 3. About the Pseudo-Ambrosian verses on the number three. R. Ehwald has delivered to us in his
splendid edition of the works of Aldhelm (Monum. Germ. auct. ant. XV p. 381) fifteen”verses of the holy Ambrose
about the Trinity,’’which were inserted in the cod. Petropolitanus F XIV 1 (R) s. VIII-IX between v. 676 and 677 of the
poem De virginitate - so after the section that treats of Ambrose. It concerns - with one exception - the already known
verses of the number three which Alcuin cites in epist. 137 (Mon. Germ, epist. IV p. 213) and later Hincmar of Rheims in
his Explanatio in ferculum Salomonis (Migne, Patrol. Lat. CXXV 821 f.) both under the name of Ambrose. Verses which G.
Mercati, Studi e Testi XII (1904) p. 17ff. is inclined to effectively hold for a poem of the great Milanese bishop, while F.
Diekamp, Theol. Revue 1904 Sp. 464 - and I think correctly - expresses his objections to this view. The Aldhelm-
manuscript includes one extra verse compared to those handed down by Alcuin and Hincmar (v. 8’ trina Petro et Johanni
in monte refulsit imago’’about the transfiguration of Christ) and also contributes to an improved text, as for instance v.
11”terno mense suis (here divided incorrectly:"ter nomen sesuis”) redeunt stata (so thinks Ehwald, who's conjectures
have repeatedly been confirmed by the Hincmar/Alcuin version, and is evidently correct compared to the ugly’statuta”)
tempora membris”- where’ stata "certainly deserves precedence over the”sua"of Alcuin and Hincmar. Besides,"stata”is
also found in the so far neglected citation of Julian of Toledo (see below). This concoction is unworthy of Ambrose in my
opinion. It is rather a later (compare below note to v. 6) playing with the type of the griphus ternarii numeri of Ausonius (p.
200ff. Peiper) and received perhaps the name of this illustrious author from one of Ambrose’s readers that was attentive
to the role of the”mysticus numerus”(Expos. in evan. Luc. II 29 p. 56,14 Schenkl; compare Mercati a.a. O. p. 21; J. B.
Kellner, Der hi. Ambrosius, Bischof von Mailand, als Erklarer des Alten Testamentes, Regensburg 1893 S. 51 f.) in his
exegesis. (Weyman, Beitrage Zur Geschichte Der Christlich-Lateinischen Poesie, 1975, p. 43; Translated by Jeroen
Beekhuizen, correspondence, February 2020)
 
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