blood of Jesus - John MacArthur has similar metaphor heresy as Homestead Heritage

Steven Avery

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Homestead heritage Contacts -

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https://www.facebook.com/groups/homesteadheritagecontacts/posts/3364939837138143/

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John MacArthur

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Steven Avery
Christina Quatrano - we understood that in the early decade or two. Now it is pro forma, a few words here and there, but the blood of Jesus is now considered figurative, this actually came from Blair in the 1990s, I remember when the meeting was described. (Sadly, it was a type of mime, almost mockery.)
It really shocked me, at the same time came the other apostate idea that they would do their own Homestead Heritage Version -- because all the English versions were corrupt and super-scholar Joel (sarcasm alert!) and company would straighten it all out. oy vey is mir.

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What can wash away my sin, nothing but the blood of JESUS!
We sang it, we felt it, we meant it, we knew it, we loved it.

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Once the blood of Jesus is devalued, Christianity is going down. That is why John MacArthur combined his similar low view of the blood of Jesus with a new Version that had "Yahweh" everywhere, the so-called Legacy Standard Bible. The devil is in those details! I wonder if the fellership is starting to use that dark version? As the newest of 15 contradictory modern corruption versions that pollute the place.

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Steven Avery

Steven Avery

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Facebook - Homestead Heritage Contacts

John MacArthur - heresy on the blood of Jesus.
Shared with Homestead Heritage?
Phil Stringer
John MacArthur - heresy on the blood of Jesus.

Shared with Homestead Heritage?

youtube - Phil Stringer - 2023 - 3 minutes
https://youtu.be/rE6JPy75BmE?si=fnUUAkWRsaKFcMD1

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=25394972313479655&id=100001807053768

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The Blood of Jesus is what provides your Salvation.

- we understood that in the early decade or two. Now it is pro forma, a few words here and there, but the blood of Jesus is now considered figurative, this actually came from Blair in the 1990s, I remember when the meeting was described. (Sadly, it was a type of mime, almost mockery.)

It really shocked me, at the same time came the other apostate idea that they would do their own Homestead Heritage Version -- because all the English versions were corrupt and super-scholar Joel (sarcasm alert!) and company would straighten it all out. oy vey is mir.

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What can wash away my sin, nothing but the blood of JESUS!
We sang it, we felt it, we meant it, we knew it, we loved it.

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Once the blood of Jesus is devalued, Christianity is going down. That is why John MacArthur combined his similar low view of the blood of Jesus with a new Version that had "Yahweh" everywhere, the so-called Legacy Standard Bible. The devil is in those details! I wonder if the fellership is starting to use that dark version? As the newest of 15 contradictory modern corruption versions that pollute the place.

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- here is one comment from John MacArthur, who I believe you can connect with the Homestead position.
"you must stop short of saying that we are saved by the blood of Jesus."

A very astute writer, Kent Brandenburg, really wanted to sympathize with John MacArthur on his blood of Jesus statements:

Is John MacArthur Off on the Blood? If So, How Far Off?
https://jackhammer.wordpress.com/2009/08/18/is-john-macarthur-off-on-the-blood-if-so-how-far-off/
Part 2
https://jackhammer.wordpress.com/2009/09/01/is-macarthur-off-on-the-blood-if-so-how-far-off-pt-2/

Powerful writing, note the fountain hymn discussion in Part 2! From John Bunyan, The Fountain of Christ!

"The things that Bunyan says in this poem are things that John MacArthur won’t say about the blood. Somebody’s wrong. I’m saying it’s MacArthur. The blood of Christ is a fountain. The blood of Christ has power. None of these are new ideas, novel inventions of modern theology. They are old. Actually they’re Bible. "

In the first part is a beautiful listing of Bible verses by Kent!

Romans 3:24-26 (AV)
”Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood,
to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past,
through the forbearance of God;
To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness:
that he might be just,
and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.”

Romans 5:9 (AV)
”Much more then,
being now justified by his blood,
we shall be saved from wrath through him.”

Ephesians 1:7 (AV)
”In whom we have redemption through his blood,
the forgiveness of sins,
according to the riches of his grace;”

Ephesians 2:13 (AV)
”But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.”

Hebrews 10:19 (AV)
“Having therefore, brethren,
boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,”

1 Peter 1:18-19 (AV)
”Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things,
as silver and gold,
from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;
But with the precious blood of Christ,
as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:”

Revelation 12:11 (AV)
“And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb,
and by the word of their testimony;
and they loved not their lives unto the death.”

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These beautiful teachings on the blood of Jesus are lost at Homestead Heritage. And it is a big part of "losing" salvation.

Hebrews 9:14 (AV)
"How much more will the blood of Christ,
who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without blemish to God,
purify our conscience from dead works to serve the living God"

Hebrews 9:22 (AV)
"Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood,
and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins" -

Hebrews 9:22 (AV)
"And through Him to reconcile to himself all things,
whether on earth or in heaven,
making peace by the blood of His cross"

Revelation 1:5 (AV)
"And from Jesus Christ the faithful witness,
the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of kings on earth.
To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by His blood"
 
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Sifted Sands

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You know there's a ministry on YouTube called "GoodFight Ministries" that do a lot of good content that I think is useful when it comes to exposing evil entertainment. They aren't defenders of the King James and they believe you can lose your salvation after being born again, but I bring them up because I remember one video where they talked about heresies, flammable heresies, and damnable heresies. A heresy is something you can believe and yet God forgives you for your ignorance, a flammable heresy is something that will cause you loss at the judgment seat of Christ of some of your rewards, and a damnable heresy is something you believe in that is strong evidence that you aren't even saved.

I know this might seem strong language against a man like John MacArthur, but I have always thought that the way MacArthur talks about the blood of Jesus Christ, borders on a damnable heresy. Seriously, I think of these verses from the book of Hebrews (which was 100% written by Paul):

"He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God."
Hebrews 10:28-31

In fact, reading those verses, that's far stronger language than my calling MacArthur's stance on the blood of Jesus a damnable heresy. These verses talk of a "sorer punishment" than dying under the law of Moses and about falling "into the hands of the living God" and of God's vengeance. That's some extreme language against those that "hath counted the blood of the covenant... an unholy thing". Referring to Christ's blood as "fluid" and that it isn't a "fluid that saves us" is found nowhere in Scripture and in fact Scripture says the exact opposite, that it is the blood of Christ that gives us redemption, even the forgiveness of our sins:

"Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:"
Colossians 1:13-14

I've been born again three-years, so in comparison to MacArthur, I'm a babe in Christ. And yet, this is obvious to me how precious the blood of Jesus Christ is and that it should never be downplayed while he seems to completely miss it. If MacArthur is a saved man, which I assume he is, despite this being in my view a normally damnable heresy, then there is definitely an unclean spirit attached to him that is blinding him to this extremely obvious biblical doctrine. I certainly believe that the devil has his angels busy 24/7 trying to trip up Christians with false doctrines and heresies, so I am open to MacArthur being saved and just deceived by the devil on this. Perhaps because he pushes the "Yawheh" name, it has opened him up to that very unclean devil and it has diluted his thinking.
 
Steven Avery

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Re: John MacArthur Didn't like to speak in tongues
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa View Post
Steve, could you explain a bit more clearly what you mean?

Maybe explain the difference of how you see the blood of Jesus compared to how MacArthur saw the blood of Jesus.
Let us start with my beliefs:

Romans 3:24-26 (AV)
”Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood,
to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past,
through the forbearance of God;
To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness:
that he might be just,
and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.”

Romans 5:9 (AV)
”Much more then,
being now justified by his blood,
we shall be saved from wrath through him.”

Ephesians 1:7 (AV)
”In whom we have redemption through his blood,
the forgiveness of sins,
according to the riches of his grace;”

Ephesians 2:13 (AV)
”But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.”

Hebrews 10:19 (AV)
“Having therefore, brethren,
boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,”

1 Peter 1:18-19 (AV)
”Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things,
as silver and gold,
from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;
But with the precious blood of Christ,
as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:”

Revelation 12:11 (AV)
“And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb,
and by the word of their testimony;
and they loved not their lives unto the death.”

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And I also believe that the blood of Jesus went down through the earthquake crack at Golgotha, landing on the mercy seat of the ark of the covenant.

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More pure Bible verses:

change to PCE

Hebrews 9:14 (AV)
"How much more will the blood of Christ,
who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without blemish to God,
purify our conscience from dead works to serve the living God"


Hebrews 9:22 (AV)
"Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood,
and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins" -

Hebrews 9:22 (AV)
"And through Him to reconcile to himself all things,
whether on earth or in heaven,
making peace by the blood of His cross"

Lev_17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life.

1Co_10:16 The cup of blessing that we bless, is it not a participation in the blood of Christ? The bread that we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ?

Rev_7:14 I said to him, “Sir, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones coming out of the great tribulation. They have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

Revelation 1:5 (AV)
"And from Jesus Christ the faithful witness,
the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of kings on earth.
To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by His blood"
 
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