Dialog of Jason and Papiscus - 2nd century

Steven Avery

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Expositor (1905)
Again the Authorship of the Last Verses of Mark
http://books.google.com/books?id=8wU0HCZmBMkC&pg=PA402
p. 401-412
This gives the hint of the
Dialogue of Jason and Papiscus for the ending of Mark -

That the anonymous Jewish-Christian dialogue employed about 160 a.d. by Celsus and known to Origen and Clement as the Dialogue of Jason and Papiscus should several centuries later come to be ascribed to this second-century litterateur of the Decapolis would be no unprecedented instance of involuntary Christian baptism. p. 407

A further coincidence which might have been but has not been adduced in favour of common authorship for the appendix to Mark and the Dialogue of Jason and Papiscus is that Celsus in 160 and Jerome in 375 both employ the two, Jerome in particular evincing, as Zahn justly argues, acquaintance with a longer and more original form of the text in Mark xvi. 14 f. than any known to us. But few who have studied the problem of the Dialogue will he disposed to look in it for the source of the appendix. p. 411-412

p. 403
Conybeare translated Zahn?

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Mark 16:14 (AV)
Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat,
and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart,
because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen.
 
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Steven Avery

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Dialogue of Jason and Papiscus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialogue_of_Jason_and_Papiscus

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Celsus Used Against Marcion?
http://earlywritings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4281&start=10

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Aristo Pellaeus
https://books.google.com/books?id=YdcCAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA60

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Dialogue between Papiscus and Philo (1889)
by Arthur Cushman McGiffert
https://books.google.com/books?id=6xlAAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA3
hardness of heart

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François Bovon and John M. Duffy,
"A New Greek Fragment of Ariston of Pella's Dialogue of Jason and Papiscus, Harvard Theological Review 105.4 October 2012, pp 457-465.
this also has the sabbath material!
https://www.jstor.org/stable/23327689?seq=1

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... on this day Christ was manifested on earth, where in obedience to the commands and the Scriptures he suffered, and following his Passion he arose from the dead: and he rose again on this day. and having appeared to his disciples. i.e., to the Apostles, he proceeded to heaven: and that this day is the day of the ages, falling on the eighth and destined to dawn for the just in incorruption, in the kingdom of God, as alight eternal for the ages. amen.
 
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Steven Avery

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Hi Professor Tolley,

Greetings!
A request for assistance.

I am trying to track down a possible connection with with the Jason and Papiscus material and the traditional ending in Mark . And I started with a note from:

Benjamin Wisner Bacon
https://books.google.com/books?id=8wU0HCZmBMkC&pg=PA412

"A further coincidence which might have been but has not been adduced in favour of common authorship for the appendix to Mark and the Dialogue of Jason and Papiscus is that Celsus in 160 and Jerome in 375 both employ the two, Jerome in particular evincing, as Zahn justly argues, acquaintance with a longer and more original form of the text in Mark xvi. 14 f. than any known to us."

This related to Theodor Zahn discussing Jerome and a connection to a "more original form" of the verse. However, Zahn and Bacon were both against the authenticity of the twelve verses, so the same evidences could simply indicate that the 2nd century text echoed the actual ending. Perhaps in the phrase about "hardness of heart".

Mark 16:14 (AV)
Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat,
and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart,
because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen.

And I have not found the primary sources of Zahn, or Jerome, that is referenced by Bacon. Also the new Sinai fragment as some interesting wording.

And I find this all very interesting, an allusion has to be looked at carefully, but if it stood up to scrutiny, it would join an Irenaeus clear connection and other allusions as 2nd century evidences. The book by Nicholas Lunn has some of the allusions, probably including Papias, Justin Martyr, Aristedes, Shepherd of Hermas and Barnabas.

Have you looked at or noticed this possible connection of the Mark ending and the Dialog/Disputation of Jason and Papiscus.

Any thoughts, ideas, references appreciated!

Thanks!

Steven Avery
Dutchess County, NY 12538
 
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