Steven Avery
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A proper trial would be a Full Health Trial -
irrespective of what is called Covid, and whether injuries may be from the jab or not.
Which group is healthier - those jab-free (or saline) or the group with the jabs
Including counts of death, hospitalizations and major ailments
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Reason Magazine
Vaccines Are 100% Effective at Preventing COVID-19 Hospitalizations and Deaths
Wondering what "95 percent efficacy" means? I've got some good news for you.
Ronald Bailey - Feb 23, 2021
https://reason.com/2021/02/23/vacci...venting-covid-19-hospitalizations-and-deaths/
Ronald Bailey - science correspondent for Reason
https://reason.com/people/ronald-bailey/
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Steven Avery
Where are the figures for:
1) reactions in the week or two after the jabs - moderate, severe and deaths, however classified. (They would generally not be included in ‘covid’ numbers.) Severe would include injuries that may be permanent, like many reported to VAERS.
2) other ailments and deaths in the trial period that are not called ‘covid’.
Without those numbers quantified it is a shell game. (Selection Fallacy)
The trial period ends in 2023.
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Plus, each jab needs a clear statement of what constitutes its placebo. Any non-saline ingredients, adjuvants, listed. They can put in toxins, supposedly to make sure the doctors and participants remain blinded to the two groups.
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Steven Avery
Rosa Rashall - it appears that the trials are not really trying to determine the overall plus and minus health effects. There are various selection fallacies involved, including weeding out the deaths that happen shortly after the jab. And I am trying to search out the protocols, see my post on top. Forbes once had an article as to how the trials are "designed to succeed", but it was not a robust article.
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FYI-anecdotal:
In my local diner, the husband of the nice lady in charge was planning a trip to Greece for family gathering, thought they needed the jab (probably not needed, now they say the worthless PCR test is enough), quite healthy, and passed away three days after jab two. Just found out today, happened three weeks ago.
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Another fallacy is trying to compare the hundreds of reported jab deaths with 'covid' deaths, actually it is a group of fallacies, but this post is enough for now
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U.S. Health Officials Question AstraZeneca Vaccine Trial Results
by Rebecca Robbins and Sharon LaFraniere - March 26
Posted by The New York Times - March 24
https://www.newsbreak.com/news/2188...-astrazeneca-vaccine-trial-results?s=web_push
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Forbes Magazine
Covid-19 Vaccine Protocols Reveal That Trials Are Designed To Succeed
William A. Haseltine
https://www.forbes.com/sites/willia...ials-are-designed-to-succeed/?sh=49012af25247
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Earlier thread - WIP
vaccine trials - what does the 90% or 95% effective mean?
https://purebibleforum.com/index.ph...s-what-does-the-90-or-95-effective-mean.1557/
irrespective of what is called Covid, and whether injuries may be from the jab or not.
Which group is healthier - those jab-free (or saline) or the group with the jabs
Including counts of death, hospitalizations and major ailments
===========================================
Reason Magazine
Vaccines Are 100% Effective at Preventing COVID-19 Hospitalizations and Deaths
Wondering what "95 percent efficacy" means? I've got some good news for you.
Ronald Bailey - Feb 23, 2021
https://reason.com/2021/02/23/vacci...venting-covid-19-hospitalizations-and-deaths/
Ronald Bailey - science correspondent for Reason
https://reason.com/people/ronald-bailey/
Ronald Bailey - Twitter
https://twitter.com/RonaldBailey
Ronald Bailey - Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/ronald.bailey.739
Steven Avery
Where are the figures for:
1) reactions in the week or two after the jabs - moderate, severe and deaths, however classified. (They would generally not be included in ‘covid’ numbers.) Severe would include injuries that may be permanent, like many reported to VAERS.
2) other ailments and deaths in the trial period that are not called ‘covid’.
Without those numbers quantified it is a shell game. (Selection Fallacy)
The trial period ends in 2023.
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Plus, each jab needs a clear statement of what constitutes its placebo. Any non-saline ingredients, adjuvants, listed. They can put in toxins, supposedly to make sure the doctors and participants remain blinded to the two groups.
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Steven Avery
Rosa Rashall - it appears that the trials are not really trying to determine the overall plus and minus health effects. There are various selection fallacies involved, including weeding out the deaths that happen shortly after the jab. And I am trying to search out the protocols, see my post on top. Forbes once had an article as to how the trials are "designed to succeed", but it was not a robust article.
==========
FYI-anecdotal:
In my local diner, the husband of the nice lady in charge was planning a trip to Greece for family gathering, thought they needed the jab (probably not needed, now they say the worthless PCR test is enough), quite healthy, and passed away three days after jab two. Just found out today, happened three weeks ago.
==========
Another fallacy is trying to compare the hundreds of reported jab deaths with 'covid' deaths, actually it is a group of fallacies, but this post is enough for now
============================================
U.S. Health Officials Question AstraZeneca Vaccine Trial Results
by Rebecca Robbins and Sharon LaFraniere - March 26
Posted by The New York Times - March 24
https://www.newsbreak.com/news/2188...-astrazeneca-vaccine-trial-results?s=web_push
============================================
Forbes Magazine
Covid-19 Vaccine Protocols Reveal That Trials Are Designed To Succeed
William A. Haseltine
https://www.forbes.com/sites/willia...ials-are-designed-to-succeed/?sh=49012af25247
============================================
Earlier thread - WIP
vaccine trials - what does the 90% or 95% effective mean?
https://purebibleforum.com/index.ph...s-what-does-the-90-or-95-effective-mean.1557/
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