Isaiah 29:12 - letter compression? or modern Greek form?

Steven Avery

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friend

I need to know how the editors of Sinaiticus' website know about compressing the letters by the original writers. If you help me to debunk the sigma thing as a "letter compression", I would have a proof that ΧΙΡΑ (in Isaiah 29:12) is a modern Greek form of a proper name Hira. The problem is that the editors of the website indicates in the apparatus that the original reading was ΧΙΡΑϚ and only epsilon was added by the corrector. However, I'm suspecting that sigma was almost certainly also added by Cb3, and that the original writer ( scribe B ) wrote ΧΙΡΑ (Hira), while epsilon and sigma were inserted by Cb3 to obtain reading for "hands".
 

Steven Avery

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Isaiah, 29:9 - 30:8 library: BL folio: 53 scribe: B
https://www.codexsinaiticus.org/en/...lioNo=3&lid=en&quireNo=44&side=v&zoomSlider=0


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γειϲται γαρ · και δο
θηϲεται το βιβλι
ον τουτο ειϲ χιραϲ
ανθρωπου · μη ε
πιϲταμενου γραμʼ
ματα ˙ και ερι αυτω ·
αναγνωθι ταυτα
και ερι . ουκ αιπιϲτα
μαι γραμʼματα ˙

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Steven Avery

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Friend, [4/24/2023 12:59 PM]
Steve, any clue who was the first who drew attention to the Arabic marginal glosses in Sinaiticus? Was there someone else besides Heinrich Leberecht Fleischer (1801-1888) ? Yes, I know that Parker also comments about these Arabic glosses, but I'm specifically looking for someone contemporary to Fleischer Oh, I see now in the link that there are actually other guys Steve, why Parker says that the Arabic gloss added to Revelation 8:1 is an "incorrect interpretation" ?
"Another note is an incorrect interpretation of Rev. 8:1ff., associating the Islamic conquest of Constantinople with the end of the world -- "And at the beginning of the seventh thousand" (i.e., the 7,000th year since the creation of the world) "a persecution will take place . . . A star of the Arabs, which looks like hellebore, will appear," etc."
"Star of the Arabs" sounds like it refers to Muhammad or perhaps his apocalyptic descendant Mahdi who will indeed conquer Constantinopol before the end of the world.

As for the codex dating itself, how you can argue that it was produced in 1840's while none of the scholars suggested that before?

Also the Zosimus Bible upon which you claim Sinaiticus is based, doesn't seem to be helpful for my Hira theory in Isaiah 29:12

Unless Sinaticus, specifically the prophetic section was transcribed from some ancient copy, and I think Scrivener has suggested this possibility, isn't?

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April 2023

Steven
If you have a good theory about the Rev 8 prophecy interp, hare away.

And what range of years you think it would be written

The scholars were duped by Tischendorf, who stashed the two sections away from each other, and both hard to handle.

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Friend
Upon what mss Sinaiticus is based according to your research?

the rise of Islam was no doubt a shocking and traumatic experience for Jews and Christians. There is no way they were indifferent about this event. In fact, it was such a critical moment that a sort of scriptural reformation must have took place, sooner or later. I refuse to believe that DSS (especially 1QIsa-a) are pre-Islamic documents, maybe some non-canonical fragments only. On my opinion, these documents are post-Islamic. In fact, Solomon Zeitlin, who was a distinguished Hebrew scholar, wrote many articles against the alleged antiquity of DSS. However, what happened later is another story, or rather I should say, a deliberate falsification of history

I think the last biblical editors lived during or after the rise of Islam as the cases of a potential actualization (because of this event) seems to me evident

but the trap that IAA is trying to put beneath our foots is that DSS are supposedly pre-Islamic and they have essentially the same chronological arrangement as MT which is impossible for many reasons

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Steven
Yes on the 1840 date - Sinaiticus used many resources

A lot of the Zeitlin material is on Jstor

Shapira is on academia.edu

I did like SZ on “from ..” not being Hebraic style from Bar Kockbs

Some of his argument is similar to Sinaiticus … too good to be true .. in regards to timing and placement
 
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