Jesuit techniques - probabilism, casuistry, equivocation, mental reservation - the George Klingensmith charade

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The Jesuit Order As A Synagoge Of Jews
Robert Aleksander Maryk
https://archive.org/details/TheJesuitOrderAsASynagogeOfJewsRobertAleksanderMaryk

Review: The Jesuit Order as a Synagogue of Jews,
by Andrew Joyce -
The Unz Review
https://www.unz.com/article/review-the-jesuit-order-as-a-synagogue-of-jews/

How the Kabbalist Jews took over the Roman Catholic Church through the Jesuit Order
A Crypto-Jewish conspiracy that started, appropriately, in a crypt beneath the church of Saint Denis in 1534 reached its culmination in 2013…
https://redefininggod.com/2016/10/h...man-catholic-church-through-the-jesuit-order/

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Were the Jesuits Crypto-Jews? Did They Stem from the Kabbalist Alumbrados?
November 10, 2024
Russ Winter
https://www.winterwatch.net/2024/11...-did-they-stem-from-the-kabbalist-alumbrados/

Modus Operandi of the Jesuits

If one were to define Jesuit behavior, it’s that of a chameleon: deceptive and two-faced. They put forth the appearance of chastity and take vows of poverty but proceed like a Mafia. Their motto is that the ends justify the means. They were money grabbers and, in particular, targeted rich childless widows, who they would literally own and control. Naturally in such a system, the order would end up with the property and wealth of their targets. If others tried to intervene or oppose them, they were some of the best ever at gang stalking.

The Debate: Were the Jesuits Little More Than a Crypto-Jew/Marrano Crime Syndicate?

One of the classic debates on the Internet is whether it’s the Jews or the Jesuits, such as between Michael Collins Piper and Eric Jon Phelps. This dichotomy is informative, but I would suggest the roots are the same and that they are fellow travelers with the same traits and characteristics. Again, the impact of the Frankist sect can’t be underestimated. Too many observers, including Piper and Phelps, don’t even mention it.

Were the Jesuits Kabbalistic Crypto-Jews?

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Chesterton on Lying: Fresh Evidence (2014)
by Deacon Jim Russell
https://catholicstand.com/chesterton-lying-fresh-evidence/

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Is 'equivocate' a euphemism for 'lie' or can it not be about lying?
https://english.stackexchange.com/q...uphemism-for-lie-or-can-it-not-be-about-lying

Equivocation was famously used by Jesuit priests to deny their catholic faith to hostile English protestant authorities, while convincing themselves that they had not sinned by actually lying.

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The Mage's Images: Heinrich Khunrath in His Oratory and Laboratory, Volume 2
Chapter 4 Christian Cabala’s Wonder-Working Word
Peter J. Forshaw
https://brill.com/display/book/9789...2wNOFuKiYjDEbqmWC71rteM1AbuZV3lIOdh7UEAALB_ar

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Conscience and Casuistry in Early Modern Europe , pp. 159 - 184
5 - The ‘new art of lying’: equivocation, mental reservation, and casuistry (2009)
Johann P. Sommerville
https://www.cambridge.org/core/book...nd-casuistry/88BA14B0DA4B366FF78D3083A01BB034

Summary

The word ‘casuistry’ has two meanings. Firstly, it signifies ‘the art or science of bringing general moral principles to bear upon particular cases’. Secondly, it means ‘sophistical, equivocal, or specious reasoning’. The connection between the two is historical. Catholic casuists, and particularly Jesuits, were accused by their opponents in the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries of employing sophistry in support of lax and absurd moral conclusions. The mud stuck. Casuistry was the dominant form of moral theorizing in late medieval and early modern Europe. Yet Henry Sidgwick was content to give it short shrift in his Outlines of the History of Ethics. The Jesuits, he said, attempted to win back souls from Protestantism ‘by accommodating ecclesiastico-moral law to worldly needs’. The excesses to which this laxity led were decisively ‘revealed to the world in the immortal Provincial Letters of Pascal’.

In Sidgwick's view, Catholic thinkers had been hampered not only by moral but also by intellectual failings. Scholasticism, he claimed, had shackled ‘the renascent intellectual activity which it stimulated and exercised, by the double bondage to Aristotle and to the Church’. As long as thought remained the slave of authority, moral philosophy in its modern sense remained impossible. Similarly, William Whewell, in his Lectures on the History of Moral Philosophy in England, dismissed casuistry in a preliminary ‘Note’, and granted it that much space only because he was lecturing as Professor of Moral Theology or Casuistical Divinity

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Sermon Audio - 2019
Larry Phillips
The Jesuits and The Zionists are Both Luciferian
https://www.sermonaudio.com/sermons/52819145481612

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Russ Winter
the Jews or the Jesuits, such as between
Michael Collins Piper
Eric Jon Phelps
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAE2DA3C219E1A6FD

The Great Debate: Zionists or Jesuits - Michael Collins Piper vs Eric Jon Phelps
Nov 09, 2023
https://freedomwarrior.podbean.com/...its-michael-collins-piper-vs-eric-jon-phelps/

Odysee - 2023
The Great Debate: Zionists or Jesuits - Michael Collins Piper vs Eric Jon Phelps
https://odysee.com/@sageofquay:0/Th...---Michael-Collins-Piper-vs-Eric-Jon-Phelps:e

Michael Collins Piper says Zionists
https://youtu.be/5eNhiVAH_og?si=pElIqNJYIESS03PX

Vatican Assassins Archive
RBN Radio Live By Greg Szymanski
Debate Between Eric Jon Phelps
And Michael Collins Piper
https://vaticanassassinsarchive.vaticanassassins.org/jaz.htm

Who is the real enemy? Zionists or Jesuits - Sep 09, 2024
Flemming Blicher
https://substack.com/home/post/p-148664212?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
Thanks to Frances Leader I stumbled upon a radio show by Greg Szymanski's from 2006, where he interviews Michael Collins Piper (it's the Zionists!) and Eric Jon Phelps (it's the Jesuits!). Here goes..

Zionists or Jesuits?
Frances Leader (includes Barry Chamish)
https://francesleader.substack.com/p/zionists-or-jesuits
 
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Debate Review: Eric Jon Phelps and Michael Collins Piper – Jesuits or Zionists?Friday, Jul 13 2012
Jesuits and Politics
olivianus
https://eternalpropositions.wordpre...nd-michael-collins-piper-jesuits-or-zionists/

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In 2006 Eric Jon Phelps (EJP) and Michael Collins Piper (MCP) debated a very important topic: who is at the top of the evil influences in the world? You can locate the debate here: Eric Jon Phelps and Michael Collins Piper – Jesuits or Zionists Debate Part 1 and find the rest of the videos on Kennedy1op’s youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/Kennedy1op/videos?query=eric+phelps+michael+collins+piper
The following is a loose summary of the debate. These are not quotations but paraphrases or summaries of what they said and sometimes I include my own opinions after considering their views.
MCP-It is a primary contention of Mr. Piper that Kennedy resisted the Jews and Zionist which led to his assassination which laid the groundwork for Zionist power in this country.
EJP– It is the primary contention of EJP that the Jesuits were created to destroy Protestantism and the Saracens in an attempt to regain power for theHoly Roman Empire. From the suppression of the Jesuits in 1773 (Dominus ac Redemptor Noster) they have been the driving force behind all secret societies and control them at the top levels of infamous human authority.
During cold war- they created the Jewish-Zionist state of Israel- the Jews were so obedient to the Jesuits that Jews are now allowed into Jesuit order- The Jewish intelligence agency Mossad works for the Jesuits and Mossad was involved in the Kennedy assassination- The Mossad and CIA work together- The CIA is the head and Mossad is the tail.
MCP– The Zionist lobby is powerful because of money- The Roman Catholic Church is against abortion yet abortions are freely available, therefore the RCC does not control America [It is disputed among Sedevecantists that the mainstream RCC is not really the RCC. Secondly, secularism was the Jesuit answer to Protestant Reformation: https://eternalpropositions.wordpre...genda-to-destroy-the-reformation-in-ed-drake/-DS]
Loftus was a Zionist and EJP relies heavily on him– if Jesuits set upIsraelwhy wouldn’t they want JFK to give arms to Israel? Why did the Mossad kill him if he was pro-Israel?
EJP– Phelps admits that Piper is right at this point and needs to amend his book.
Phelps asserts that the CIA was the continuation of the SS in Nazi Germany. Cardinal Spellman and J Edgar Hoover brought in the SS.
Phelps argues that Piper is ignoring the fact that Shimon Peres deeded the land around Jerusalem and many Holy Sites over to the Vatican. [See Barry Chamish’s work here and here-DS]
MCP– At Video four around the 4 minute mark Piper admits he doesn’t know the history behind Phelps’s accusations about the Jesuits and the Vatican. Yet in the debate he claims he read Eric’s entire book! How contradictory is that? Piper claims that as of Vatican 2, Zionists had a part in shifting the Catholic Church away from their more strict fundamental beliefs. So the Zionists infiltrated Rome not the other way around.
Piper claims that the CIA came from Office of Strategic Services, not the Jesuits.
EJP– And office of strategic services was headed by Wild Bill Donovan. [He was a Knight ofMalta and in July 1944, Pope Pius XII, awarded Donovan the Knight Grand Cross of the Order ofSt. Sylvester for his services.-DS]- Phelps also mentions that James Angleton was also involved in the Kennedy Assassination.
MCP– In 1948 James Angleton became liaison to Israel thus the CIA is pro Israel. Donovan faded from the scene by 1963- Donovan Knight of Malta connection means nothing. If he was a member of the Rotary Club that doesn’t mean the Rotary Club was behind the Kennedy assassination!
Mafia is not Jesuit but Jewish Zionist, thus Hyman Larner and Myer Lansky.
EJP– The CFR controls the press, academia, and banking and CFR is controlled by archbishop of New York. http://www.vaticanassassins.org/rom...relations-membership-roster-of-traitors-2010/
MCP– The Vatican opposed the war in Iraq, the Zionist supported it.
EJP– That is because the Hierarchy has a fake open policy and a real secret policy.
[2nd we are not talking about the average catholic. We are talking about the hierarchy and the secret cults within Rome’s belly-DS]
In Bavaria Jesuits like Rupert Mayer were openly against the rise of Hitler. But secretly they were for him in the formation of the SS and the creation of the Independent State of Croatia.
Phelps also pointed out that George Tenet [Previous director of the CIA] is a Knight of Malta, was behind 9/11 and the crusade against Muslims
MCP– During the 7th minute of 7th video Piper says he read through the entirety of Phelps’ Vatican Assassins. Yet other parts of this debate lead one to think otherwise.
In the 8th video, a commenter n0b0dy508, made a fantastic observation:
“Just reinforces reasons why Piper is a Jesuit coadjutor, and Eric Phelps is simply telling it like it is and even admits to Zionist elements involved in certain aspects of history. Piper denies the Jesuit involvement in anything and keeps repeating himself, a key sign that he has ran out of options in the debate. Notice he keeps going back to “…well in his book when he talks about the JFK assassination…” when Phelps already admitted his mistake!”
EJP– Phelps emphasizes that the Pope believes he has TEMPORAL POWER THROUGH PAPAL PRIMACY. He believes he has right to any government through any means necessary including 3rd party Zionism.
MCP– All religions want to rule the world! Not just the Vatican. [That is fundamentally not true. I know of no history of any Buddhist, Hindu or Protestant Christian that believed he had right to every government in the world.-DS]
Piper says, that there “no evidence for Jesuit involvement”. This is clear evidence of Papal coadjutation. At Video 9 at the 30 second mark Piper says that Phelps’ theory hinges on his view of the Kennedy assassination and his mistake by missing the war between Kennedy and the Jews. Piper never showed how this mistake destroys Phelps’ theory or how his view of the Kennedy assassination necessarily removes the Jesuits from world power.
MCP– Piper makes the point that Malachi Martin is a Zionist and is not a reliable source.
EJP– Jesuits are the ultimate Zionists! [See: https://eternalpropositions.wordpre...agenda-to-fulfill-ignatius-loyolas-vision/-DS]
Cardinal Augustin Bea (Jesuit) was a driving force behindVatican2 and the Anti-Defamation League named its Interfaith Award after Bea. Bea was the confessor of Pope Pius XII.
MCP– All that proves is that a Jesuit allowed himself to be used by the Zionists.
EJP– Who was here first the Jesuits or the Zionists? There is no Zionist that predates the Jesuit order.
MCP– At 4:40 he shows he seems to know quite a bit about the Catholic Church. – He knows the difference between traditionalist and V2 Catholics. He says traditionalist Catholicism is against Zionism but Zionist influence is in V2. HE IS A COADJUTATOR. THAT IS WHERE THE KKK GETS THIS STUFF!
EJP– JESUITS HAVE BEEN RUNNING THE RCC HIERARCHY NO LATER THAN 1814- By the way, there were no Zionists in 1814.
MCP-Zionists philosophy goes back 1000 years!
EJP– That’s different! Contemporary Zionism is Luciferianism based on high level freemasonry which the Jesuits revived in 1717. They created Zionism to take overJerusalem (Thus Shimon Peres) and rebuild the third temple.
As a side note, at Video 9 at the 6:00 mark a traditionalist Catholic caller had the same view as Michael Collins Piper on the Zionists!
EJP– V2 was the Jesuit attempt to wash theVatican’s bloody hands from their involvement in the massacre of the Orthodox Christians inRussia, the Jews in the German Holocaust and the Catholic people in Bavaria who refused the 1870 papal infallibility doctrine.
MCP– Who was responsible for the murder of the Catholic priests and nuns in republicanSpain? The communists!
EJP– The republicans inSpain expelled the Jesuits in 1932 and the Jesuits got their revenge on other Catholics for challenging their authority just like inFrance,Italy,Spain andPortugal during Napoleonic wars.
In conclusion, I would like to point out that the only weak spots in Phelps’ arguments can be satisfied in the Traditional Protestant Historicism and Post-Millennialism of the Reformers instead of Phelps’ Futurist Premillennialism. His Baptistic leanings also cater to Zionist tendencies. The Covenant Theology of the Reformers spiritualizes the literal land promise (Acts 15) and denies the Jews the right to Palestineas God divorced Israelfrom that covenant promise; see here: http://olivianus.thekingsparlor.com...ning-the-law-and-the-sabbath-by-drake-shelton
SectionI.xvii. That is not to say that God is finished with the Jewish people. Romans 11 clearly affirms the future faith of the Jewish people unto Christ. But that in itself is no right to the literal land of Palestine.
Protestant Historicism is against Rome primarily and would fully agree with Phelps’ accusations of the Papacy and the Jesuits but also affirm the problems with Zionism. For more info see Francis Nigel Lee’s page: http://www.dr-fnlee.org/.

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Eric Jon Phelps; A Brotherly Presbyterian Historicist Examination, Criticism and RecomendationAugust 2, 2012In "Atheism"
 
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Steven Avery

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The George Klingensmith charade is discussed on other pages.

A group of “Christian” elders put forth a fabrication.

To try to justify this in their own minds, they had to use the Jesuitical techniques.
 
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