Psalm 110 - the LORD said to my Lord - tetragram and adon - Deuteronomy 6:4

Steven Avery

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From a CARM discussion:

CARM - Biblical Languages
Initial Considerations of the Use of KURIOS in Acts

https://forums.carm.org/vb5/forum/theology/general-christian-topics/biblical-languages/5070962-initial-considerations-of-the-use-of-kurios-in-acts?p=5083391#post5083391

There is a lot of material on this from the Messianic_Apologetic discussion days.
I'll try to expand the discussion on this thread.

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If the KJV has the convention of treating LORD differently from Lord, and the first is supposed to reflect the OT use of the Tetragram, and the second use is supposed to reflect "Adonai," then their own translation of Acts 2:34 disregards their own convention:... I am beginning to believe the KJV completely arbitrary and GUESSING about their own translations. Steven Avery

And I suggest that you use the Pure Cambridge Edition of the AV, which functions as a type of Received Text of AV editions. It is online in a PDF, however I have SwordSearcher software, by Brandon Staggs, which uses the PCE.

Acts 2:34-35 (AV-PCE)
For David is not ascended into the heavens:
but he saith himself,
The LORD said unto my Lord,
Sit thou on my right hand,
Until I make thy foes thy footstool.

Matthew 22:44
The LORD said unto my Lord,
Sit thou on my right hand,
till I make thine enemies thy footstool?

Mark 12:36
For David himself said by the Holy Ghost,
The LORD said to my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
till I make thine enemies thy footstool.

Luke 20:42-43
And David himself saith in the book of Psalms,
The LORD said unto my Lord,
Sit thou on my right hand,
Till I make thine enemies thy footstool.


This is the same consistency as in Psalm 110.

Psalm 110:1
A Psalm of David.
The LORD said unto my Lord,
Sit thou at my right hand,
until I make thine enemies thy footstool.


You will find that the corruption versions frequently have this wrong, OT and NT.

And the Jewish "anti-missionaries" have understandably used this as a point of attack on the Christian versions, especially on Psalm 110. I have seen them attack the AV-1611 on Psalm 110, hoewver that distinction was clearly shown even in the original 1611 edition in the Psalm verse.


AV-1611 - Psalm 110
http://sceti.library.upenn.edu/sceti/printedbooksNew/index.cfm?TextID=kjbible&PagePosition=704


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Steven Avery

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Adonai in the Old Testament (Adonay Adonoy )

In 1 Samuel 24:8, 26:17, and 29:8, David refers to Saul as “my lord the king” and uses the term Adonai.
(this is adoni)
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Adonai is not all caps

Isaiah 6:1 (KJV)
In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple.

Genesis 15:2 (KJV)
And Abram said, Lord GOD, what wilt thou give me, seeing I go childless, and the steward of my house is this Eliezer of Damascus?

Blue Letter Bible
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Adonai
https://www.blueletterbible.org/lexicon/h136/kjv/wlc/0-1/

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Psa 68:17

The chariots of God are twenty thousand, even thousands of angels: the Lord H136 is among them, as in Sinai, in the holy place.

Psalm 73:20
78:65

Psalm 90:17 capitals? LORD

went through first two sections
 
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Steven Avery

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Deuteronomy 6:4 (AV-PCE)
Hear, O Israel:
The LORD our God is one LORD:

Mark 12:29 (AV)
And Jesus answered him,
The first of all the commandments is,
Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:


Jehovah

 
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All LORD in New Testament

Matthew 22:44 (KJV)
The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool?

Mark 12:36 (KJV)
For David himself said by the Holy Ghost, The LORD said to my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool.

Luke 20:42 (KJV)
And David himself saith in the book of Psalms, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,

Acts 2:34 (KJV)
For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,

Revelation 19:16 (KJV)
And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

https://religion.culture.narkive.co...t-have-lord-in-all-the-other-locations-the-ot
In the OT, when the Hebrew word is Jehovah, the King James translators wrote LORD all in capitals every time.
Psalms 110:1 The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
Mark 12:36 For David himself said by the Holy Ghost, The LORD said to my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool.
Both of these verses are differentiating between God the Father (Jehovah LORD) and the Lord Jesus Christ (Lord). Obviously, Jesus sits at the right hand of the Father.
But other verses are not making that distinction.
Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
Mark 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
These verses are speaking of the Godhead as a whole, and NOT differentiating between the Father and Son.
The old King James is more accurate.

Check
1611
Geneva
Bishops

List of verses
 
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