Steven Avery
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Is the Romans 9:5 doxology unique?
Another verse 2 Cor 11:31 has a similar doxology, not claimed as an identity verse.
Is it to Christ or to God and Father?
2 Corinthians 11:31 (AV)
The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
which is blessed for evermore,
knoweth that I lie not.
Romans 9:5 (AV)
Whose are the fathers,
and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came,
who is over all,
God blessed for ever.
Amen.
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Also in this discussion:
Romans 1:25 (AV)
Who changed the truth of God into a lie,
and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator,
who is blessed for ever. Amen.
2 Corinthians 1:3 (AV)
Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort;
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Brian Winter
The same construction, as translated by the "learned men of the AV" is in Romans 1:25, so I will let them demonstrate it:
καὶ ἐλάτρευσαν τῇ κτίσει παρὰ τὸν κτίσαντα ὅς ἐστιν εὐλογητὸς εἰς τοὺς αἰῶνας ἀμήν,
"and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen."
And also in 2 Corinthians 11:31, which they translate,
The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, ὁ ὢν εὐλογητὸς εἰς τοὺς αἰῶνας ("who is blessed forevermore").
"Blessed" in these cases (as in Romans 9:5 AV) follows the definition "held in reverence: venerated; honored in worship: hallowed," ("Blessed," M-W.com, full definition 1a, b), and in other words, "praised, magnified, extolled," etc. (Cf. verb form "Bless," Webster's 1828, no. 7) as it very often is in the AV.
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Romans 9:5 - The Deity Of Christ
Another verse 2 Cor 11:31 has a similar doxology, not claimed as an identity verse.
Is it to Christ or to God and Father?
2 Corinthians 11:31 (AV)
The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
which is blessed for evermore,
knoweth that I lie not.
Romans 9:5 (AV)
Whose are the fathers,
and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came,
who is over all,
God blessed for ever.
Amen.
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Also in this discussion:
Romans 1:25 (AV)
Who changed the truth of God into a lie,
and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator,
who is blessed for ever. Amen.
2 Corinthians 1:3 (AV)
Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort;
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Brian Winter
Romans 9:5 - Athanasius and Basil
Athanasius (corrected from Basil) https://books.google.com/books?id=rya0v9bgwT8C&pg=PA55 Readings in the History of Christian Theology, Volume 1, Revised Edition: From Its Beginnings to the Eve of the Reformation, Volume 1 https://books.google.com/books?id=NWWICgAAQBAJ&pg=PA43 Athanasius -...
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The same construction, as translated by the "learned men of the AV" is in Romans 1:25, so I will let them demonstrate it:
καὶ ἐλάτρευσαν τῇ κτίσει παρὰ τὸν κτίσαντα ὅς ἐστιν εὐλογητὸς εἰς τοὺς αἰῶνας ἀμήν,
"and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen."
And also in 2 Corinthians 11:31, which they translate,
The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, ὁ ὢν εὐλογητὸς εἰς τοὺς αἰῶνας ("who is blessed forevermore").
"Blessed" in these cases (as in Romans 9:5 AV) follows the definition "held in reverence: venerated; honored in worship: hallowed," ("Blessed," M-W.com, full definition 1a, b), and in other words, "praised, magnified, extolled," etc. (Cf. verb form "Bless," Webster's 1828, no. 7) as it very often is in the AV.
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Romans 9:5 - Athanasius and Basil
And also in 2 Corinthians 11:31, which they translate, The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, ὁ ὢν εὐλογητὸς εἰς τοὺς αἰῶνας ("who is blessed forevermore"). 2 Corinthians 11:31 (AV) The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which is blessed for evermore, knoweth that I lie not. This...
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Romans 9:5 - The Deity Of Christ
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