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Simonides - Sophronius - 1837 manuscript request for Athos inquiries
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He could have been. Monks never used their given names
David
There is a Sophronius entry in Panteleimon that is clearly Simonides
"Sophronius, the lowly and sinful, least among monks"
Faked - Kindle
Fake
David
There is a Sophronius entry in Panteleimon that is clearly Simonides
"Sophronius, the lowly and sinful, least among monks"
Faked - Kindle
Fake
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hi David
"my first stay. 2nd, I was at Mount Athos for political reasons, and was habited as a monk, and was known as Sophronius and not as Simonides. These matters would be well understood by those who know the peculiar relations of the Greeks, Roman Catholics, and Turks in those regions, but may be incomprehensible to some of your readers."
Was he known at Mt. Athos as Sophronius? Probably not?
"my first stay. 2nd, I was at Mount Athos for political reasons, and was habited as a monk, and was known as Sophronius and not as Simonides. These matters would be well understood by those who know the peculiar relations of the Greeks, Roman Catholics, and Turks in those regions, but may be incomprehensible to some of your readers."
Was he known at Mt. Athos as Sophronius? Probably not?
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Baricourt in 1890 in the NY Sun
is it credible
Baricourt = 1850/51 his 2nd visit to Athos; manuscript smash and grab
He also used the fake alias "Baricourt".
Daily Alta California,
Volume 83
Number 132
Sunday, November 9th, 1890
Subheading: “An Erudite Rascal”
Page 11
“He sold it for $3200 to the Duke of Sutherland [= Sir Thomas Phillips], and also disposed of a beautiful letter from Alcibiades to Pericles to the same purchaser for $1000. When the fraud was discovered, Simonides was away off on the Continent again. No trace of him could be found, and the scholars' of Europe hoped and thought they were at last relieved of this disturber of the traditions of antiquity. One day, however, the news came from the Athos cloister(s) [= plural] that the indefatigable forger was loose again, under the assumed name of "Baricourt". The monks throughout that part of the world [i.e. all of Mt. Athos] were warned against him, and he was eventually caught in the Iberian cloister in the act of adding to an old manuscript a little supplementary matter of his own composition. He was rushed out, the warning against him was published far and near, and he was made so notorious that his profession ceased to be profitable...”
My Footnote
The Iberian cloister = the Iviron Monastery (Greek: Ιβήρων) has a library which is one of the richest in Mount Athos, containing more than 2,000 codices and 15 liturgical scrolls, 100 manuscripts and 15,000 printed books. The library also contains several important imperial and patriarchal documents.
https://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=DAC18901109.2.117&e=-------en--20--1--txt-txIN--------
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CARM - TNC and Shoonra
AN ERUDITE RASCAL
A Master of Drawing and Lithography and a Fine Chemist.
He Deceives the Most Learned Men of This Century.
Alcibiades Simonides Dies After Imposing on His Fellow Men For Nearly Forty Years.
New York Sun [Daily Alta California, 9 Nov 1890]
"In an Albanian village there died recently one of the most original and artistic swindlers of the present century. Alcibiades Simonidea was a master of drawing, a fine lithographer and an excellent chemist. He was an omnivorous reader of history, which he retained to the smallest details in the iron grip of his memory. He had eloquence, ingenuity and perseverance. All of these talents he devoted to a single purpose. He made a profession of swindling the most learned of his contemporaries.
Simonides made his debut at the age of thirty-five at Athens. He then laid before the King of Greece a mass of apparently priceless manuscripts. They were seemingly of great antiquity, and included works which had long been lost to civilization. Simonides explained that he and His uncle had discovered the manuscripts in the Cloister Chilandarim on Mount Athos. He told just how and when the manuscripts were found, and fortified every sentence with copious references to literary history and classical authorities. The King bought $10,000 worth of the treasures and Simonides disappeared. In a year he was back again with another batch of marvelously valuable old manuscripts. Among them was an ancient Homer, written on lotus leaves, and accompanied by a complete commentary of Eustatius. The King wished to buy the whole lot. but could not see his way clear to raising money for more than half of it. The rest of the manuscripts he recommended for purchase to the University of Athens. The rector of the university was not without misgivings as to the smooth stories of Simonides', and at his suggestion a commission of twelve scholars was appointed to test the genuineness of the documents. After a long investigation eleven members of the commission reported that the manuscripts were authentic. The twelfth, Professor Mavraki, called lor a new investigation, which was eventually made. The result was the discovery that Simonides' Homer was a verbatim copy, - even to the typographical errors, of Wolff's edition.
The commission summoned Simonides to appear before it and explain, but he had got wind of the state of affairs and had skipped away with the proceeds of his sales to the King. For a few years he was completely lost to view. His performance in Athens was almost forgotten. In the middle of the sixties he turned up, unrecognized and unsuspected, in Constantinople, with an old Greek work. concerning hieroglyphics and an Assyrian manuscript with an interlinear Phoenician translation. For the delectation of Armenian scholars he had also brought a Greek history of Armenia. He found patrons enough and had Boon transformed his manuscript into cash to the amount of about $40,000. When the introduction and the first chapter of the Armenian history were published, it was remarked that the names of the Armenian Generals were not Armenian, and Simonides was again missing when called upon for explanations.
The slight historical error as to the Armenian Generals and their names wound up the first period of Simonides' career, and led him to vary somewhat his manner of working in his future schemes. The first evidence of this change was his announcement to western European scholars some time later that he possessed a roll dating from the days when the French and Venetians ruled Constantinople. In this roll, he said, a monk had recorded that there were buried manuscripts of great age and value at various spots on the Bosphorus. The location of these spots was described accurately in the roll. *
In a certain cloister, Simonides said. might be found the Acts of the first Apostolic Concilium of Antioch. Eventually Simonides sought the aid ot the Patriarch in unearthing these treasures. The Patriarch, however, answered that " these acts were superfluous. Either they confirmed or contradicted the canons of the Greek Church. In the first case they were useless; in the second they were worse than useless, and the finding of them would be a criminal deed."
Simonides then waited on the Minister of Public Works, Ismail Pasha. The Pasha was in his harem when Simonides called, and so the forger busied himself with a little exploration of the garden while waiting. He buried a small box under a big fig tree there, and, when the Pasha appeared, remarked that the garden seemed to be the location of buried manuscripts mentioned in this and that classical work. After screwing the Pasha's interest up to the necessary ardor, he suggested that digging for the manuscripts should begin at once. He directed that the first excavation be made under the fig tree. In a few minutes the Pasha's workmen struck a curious old box, in which lay a bit of discolored parchment bearing a poem ostensibly written by Aristotle. The Pasha was delighted and filled Simonides hands with Turkish money. A few days later Ismail was brought down from the clouds by the remark of his gardener that the fig tree in question had been transplanted only twenty years before, and that all the ground on and about the spot where the box was found had been dug up thoroughly at that time. The Pasha's chagrin was so great that he made no effort to bring Simonides to justice. The cunning old Greek derived encouragement from the impunity with which he had executed his last maneuver.
He looked around for another Turkish victim and decided that he had found him in Ibrahim Pasha. Ibrahim had just broken ground for the erection of a building on the site of the ancient Byzantine hippodrome. Simonides told him that a few yards below the surface, at a certain spot, there must be an Arabian manuscript.- The Pasha's workmen dug there, but found nothing. " Let me dig," exclaimed Simonides. He dug, and in five minutes handed the Pasha a curious bronze box. Within it was an Arabian poem on parchment. The Pasha wished immediately to give Simonides a splendid reward. He was stopped, however, by a laborer, who said he had seen the Greek slip the little chest from his sleeve into the hole. There was a dispute of considerable violence, and eventually the decision of the points of authenticity and veracity was postponed to the next day. That was the last Ibrahim Pasha saw of Simonides.
Two months later Simonides appeared at the British Museum with a memorandum of the General Belisarius to the Emperor Justinian. He sold it for $3200 to the Duke of Sutherland, and also disposed of a beautiful letter from Alcibiades to Pericles to the same purchaser for $1000. When the fraud was discovered Simonides was away off on the Continent again. No trace of him could be found, and the scholars of Europe hoped and thought they were at last relieved of this disturber of the traditions of antiquity. One day, however, the news came from the Athos cloisters that the indefatigable forger was loose again, under the assumed name of Baricourt. The monks throughout that part of the world were warned against him. and he was eventually caught in the Iberian cloister in the act of adding to an old manuscript a little supplementary matter of his own composition. He was rushed out, the warning against him was published far and near, and he was made so notorious that his profession ceased to be profitable.
One of the last meetings of the learned doctor with a man of the world occurred in Corfu a few years ago. A correspondent of the Vienna Tageblatt returned to his room in the Hotel St. George one evening to find on his table a card bearing the words: "The deceased Dr. Alcibiades Simonides. Meet me on the Esplanade at midnight to learn of a matter of the greatest importance." At the midnight meeting Simonides explained that he called himself deceased, not only because he was dead to the world, but because in a recent illness he had been pronounced physically dead, had been put into his coma and lowered into his grave, and had been aroused by the gravel falling on the lid just in time to secure his release by a tremendous knocking and groaning. The purpose of Simonides' appointment, however, was to show a document. apparently written by Leopold the Glorious, in which the Babeaberger Prince related in the form of a diary his experiences during the Crusades, including some highly interesting particulars of his meeting with Richard the Lion-Hearted. Simonides described how he had picked up this work in Jerusalem, and had brought it away with the idea of selling it to the Vienna Academy of Sciences.
At the time of his death Simonides was seventy-two. He was of medium height, thin as a bone, and moved mechanically. He had small eyes, a jaundiced skin and lips like paper. A big black beard hung to his waist. While conversing he held his arms crossed on his breast. He never smiled, had no fnends, and died alone without leaving a person to mourn for him. He had existed for nearly forty years by imposing on men of great learning in the field of their special knowledge. He was probably one of the most erudite rascals that ever lived.
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Divided into paragraphs according to my whim. Typos corrected if I spotted them.
is it credible
Baricourt = 1850/51 his 2nd visit to Athos; manuscript smash and grab
Codex Sinaiticus and Constantine Simonides - False Aliases
Read.more carefully. Later nineteenth century is the 1860s library entry. 1,000 times more consequential are the two 1841 entries, connected to Simonides, contiguous and the same manuscript copied. McGrane is an absolute disaster on the catalogue entries. =========== Monk titles are subject...
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He also used the fake alias "Baricourt".
Daily Alta California,
Volume 83
Number 132
Sunday, November 9th, 1890
Subheading: “An Erudite Rascal”
Page 11
“He sold it for $3200 to the Duke of Sutherland [= Sir Thomas Phillips], and also disposed of a beautiful letter from Alcibiades to Pericles to the same purchaser for $1000. When the fraud was discovered, Simonides was away off on the Continent again. No trace of him could be found, and the scholars' of Europe hoped and thought they were at last relieved of this disturber of the traditions of antiquity. One day, however, the news came from the Athos cloister(s) [= plural] that the indefatigable forger was loose again, under the assumed name of "Baricourt". The monks throughout that part of the world [i.e. all of Mt. Athos] were warned against him, and he was eventually caught in the Iberian cloister in the act of adding to an old manuscript a little supplementary matter of his own composition. He was rushed out, the warning against him was published far and near, and he was made so notorious that his profession ceased to be profitable...”
My Footnote
The Iberian cloister = the Iviron Monastery (Greek: Ιβήρων) has a library which is one of the richest in Mount Athos, containing more than 2,000 codices and 15 liturgical scrolls, 100 manuscripts and 15,000 printed books. The library also contains several important imperial and patriarchal documents.
https://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=DAC18901109.2.117&e=-------en--20--1--txt-txIN--------
===================================
CARM - TNC and Shoonra
AN ERUDITE RASCAL
A Master of Drawing and Lithography and a Fine Chemist.
He Deceives the Most Learned Men of This Century.
Alcibiades Simonides Dies After Imposing on His Fellow Men For Nearly Forty Years.
New York Sun [Daily Alta California, 9 Nov 1890]
"In an Albanian village there died recently one of the most original and artistic swindlers of the present century. Alcibiades Simonidea was a master of drawing, a fine lithographer and an excellent chemist. He was an omnivorous reader of history, which he retained to the smallest details in the iron grip of his memory. He had eloquence, ingenuity and perseverance. All of these talents he devoted to a single purpose. He made a profession of swindling the most learned of his contemporaries.
Simonides made his debut at the age of thirty-five at Athens. He then laid before the King of Greece a mass of apparently priceless manuscripts. They were seemingly of great antiquity, and included works which had long been lost to civilization. Simonides explained that he and His uncle had discovered the manuscripts in the Cloister Chilandarim on Mount Athos. He told just how and when the manuscripts were found, and fortified every sentence with copious references to literary history and classical authorities. The King bought $10,000 worth of the treasures and Simonides disappeared. In a year he was back again with another batch of marvelously valuable old manuscripts. Among them was an ancient Homer, written on lotus leaves, and accompanied by a complete commentary of Eustatius. The King wished to buy the whole lot. but could not see his way clear to raising money for more than half of it. The rest of the manuscripts he recommended for purchase to the University of Athens. The rector of the university was not without misgivings as to the smooth stories of Simonides', and at his suggestion a commission of twelve scholars was appointed to test the genuineness of the documents. After a long investigation eleven members of the commission reported that the manuscripts were authentic. The twelfth, Professor Mavraki, called lor a new investigation, which was eventually made. The result was the discovery that Simonides' Homer was a verbatim copy, - even to the typographical errors, of Wolff's edition.
The commission summoned Simonides to appear before it and explain, but he had got wind of the state of affairs and had skipped away with the proceeds of his sales to the King. For a few years he was completely lost to view. His performance in Athens was almost forgotten. In the middle of the sixties he turned up, unrecognized and unsuspected, in Constantinople, with an old Greek work. concerning hieroglyphics and an Assyrian manuscript with an interlinear Phoenician translation. For the delectation of Armenian scholars he had also brought a Greek history of Armenia. He found patrons enough and had Boon transformed his manuscript into cash to the amount of about $40,000. When the introduction and the first chapter of the Armenian history were published, it was remarked that the names of the Armenian Generals were not Armenian, and Simonides was again missing when called upon for explanations.
The slight historical error as to the Armenian Generals and their names wound up the first period of Simonides' career, and led him to vary somewhat his manner of working in his future schemes. The first evidence of this change was his announcement to western European scholars some time later that he possessed a roll dating from the days when the French and Venetians ruled Constantinople. In this roll, he said, a monk had recorded that there were buried manuscripts of great age and value at various spots on the Bosphorus. The location of these spots was described accurately in the roll. *
In a certain cloister, Simonides said. might be found the Acts of the first Apostolic Concilium of Antioch. Eventually Simonides sought the aid ot the Patriarch in unearthing these treasures. The Patriarch, however, answered that " these acts were superfluous. Either they confirmed or contradicted the canons of the Greek Church. In the first case they were useless; in the second they were worse than useless, and the finding of them would be a criminal deed."
Simonides then waited on the Minister of Public Works, Ismail Pasha. The Pasha was in his harem when Simonides called, and so the forger busied himself with a little exploration of the garden while waiting. He buried a small box under a big fig tree there, and, when the Pasha appeared, remarked that the garden seemed to be the location of buried manuscripts mentioned in this and that classical work. After screwing the Pasha's interest up to the necessary ardor, he suggested that digging for the manuscripts should begin at once. He directed that the first excavation be made under the fig tree. In a few minutes the Pasha's workmen struck a curious old box, in which lay a bit of discolored parchment bearing a poem ostensibly written by Aristotle. The Pasha was delighted and filled Simonides hands with Turkish money. A few days later Ismail was brought down from the clouds by the remark of his gardener that the fig tree in question had been transplanted only twenty years before, and that all the ground on and about the spot where the box was found had been dug up thoroughly at that time. The Pasha's chagrin was so great that he made no effort to bring Simonides to justice. The cunning old Greek derived encouragement from the impunity with which he had executed his last maneuver.
He looked around for another Turkish victim and decided that he had found him in Ibrahim Pasha. Ibrahim had just broken ground for the erection of a building on the site of the ancient Byzantine hippodrome. Simonides told him that a few yards below the surface, at a certain spot, there must be an Arabian manuscript.- The Pasha's workmen dug there, but found nothing. " Let me dig," exclaimed Simonides. He dug, and in five minutes handed the Pasha a curious bronze box. Within it was an Arabian poem on parchment. The Pasha wished immediately to give Simonides a splendid reward. He was stopped, however, by a laborer, who said he had seen the Greek slip the little chest from his sleeve into the hole. There was a dispute of considerable violence, and eventually the decision of the points of authenticity and veracity was postponed to the next day. That was the last Ibrahim Pasha saw of Simonides.
Two months later Simonides appeared at the British Museum with a memorandum of the General Belisarius to the Emperor Justinian. He sold it for $3200 to the Duke of Sutherland, and also disposed of a beautiful letter from Alcibiades to Pericles to the same purchaser for $1000. When the fraud was discovered Simonides was away off on the Continent again. No trace of him could be found, and the scholars of Europe hoped and thought they were at last relieved of this disturber of the traditions of antiquity. One day, however, the news came from the Athos cloisters that the indefatigable forger was loose again, under the assumed name of Baricourt. The monks throughout that part of the world were warned against him. and he was eventually caught in the Iberian cloister in the act of adding to an old manuscript a little supplementary matter of his own composition. He was rushed out, the warning against him was published far and near, and he was made so notorious that his profession ceased to be profitable.
One of the last meetings of the learned doctor with a man of the world occurred in Corfu a few years ago. A correspondent of the Vienna Tageblatt returned to his room in the Hotel St. George one evening to find on his table a card bearing the words: "The deceased Dr. Alcibiades Simonides. Meet me on the Esplanade at midnight to learn of a matter of the greatest importance." At the midnight meeting Simonides explained that he called himself deceased, not only because he was dead to the world, but because in a recent illness he had been pronounced physically dead, had been put into his coma and lowered into his grave, and had been aroused by the gravel falling on the lid just in time to secure his release by a tremendous knocking and groaning. The purpose of Simonides' appointment, however, was to show a document. apparently written by Leopold the Glorious, in which the Babeaberger Prince related in the form of a diary his experiences during the Crusades, including some highly interesting particulars of his meeting with Richard the Lion-Hearted. Simonides described how he had picked up this work in Jerusalem, and had brought it away with the idea of selling it to the Vienna Academy of Sciences.
At the time of his death Simonides was seventy-two. He was of medium height, thin as a bone, and moved mechanically. He had small eyes, a jaundiced skin and lips like paper. A big black beard hung to his waist. While conversing he held his arms crossed on his breast. He never smiled, had no fnends, and died alone without leaving a person to mourn for him. He had existed for nearly forty years by imposing on men of great learning in the field of their special knowledge. He was probably one of the most erudite rascals that ever lived.
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Divided into paragraphs according to my whim. Typos corrected if I spotted them.
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Curious Literary Frauds
E. W. Mayo
Era Magazine - 1903
https://books.google.com/books?id=Nn9MAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA389
The Rose-Jar - 1905
https://books.google.com/books?id=10957ZxKsEwC&pg=PA200
From time to time the world of letters
is shaken up by a successful literary
imposture; and while these fraudulent
attempts were more frequent some gen-
erations ago, a fresh venture now and
again serves to show that the field is still
open. It is not very long, indeed, since
a commotion was caused by the exposure,
in London, of the man calling himself
Louis dc Rougcmont, whose story of a
thirty years’ experience among cannibal
blacks in Australia turned out to be
merely one of a long line of literary fakes
and frauds.
...
Mormon - Islam
Undoubtedly the greatest of modern literary forgers was the Greek, Alcibiades Simonides, who died no longer ago than 1890. It is a question indeed if Simonides has ever had an equal in his peculiar calling. To the sublime impudence of Psalmanazar, he added accomplishments which were invaluable to him in the particular line of work which he had selected. He was a chemist, an artist and a lithographer, a combination especially valuable in the manufacture of ancient manuscripts, which was the forte of this modem Alcibiades. In 1835 Simonides appeared in Athens and laid before the king an ancient manuscript supposed to have been forever lost. His uncle and himself had discovered it in the cloister of Chilandri, on Mt. Athos. The delighted king paid $10,000 for the precious documents. In a year Simonides was back again with a fresh lot. This time it was ancient Homer, written on lotus leaves, that he had found. The king felt that lie could not afford to buy all of this, but he suggested to the directors of the University of Athens that they buy one-half of the manuscript and that lie would pay for the other half. A commission of
twelve scholars was appointed to examine the work. All but one reported in favor of its authenticity. This one, Professor Mavraki, insisted on further investigation, which brought out the peculiar fact that this ancient manuscript reproduced all the misprints of Wolff’s edition of
Homer. By this time Simonides had disappeared.
Some years later a man by the name of Baricourt appeared in Constantinople with a palimpsest history of the kings of Egypt and other Greek and Assyrian manuscripts that set the learned world agog. After submitting them to examination at the hands of eminent scholars in Berlin and Paris he sold them for $40,000. The publication of the palimpsest history had actually begun before the Egyptologist, Lepsius, discovered that it was in part a translation of some of his own writings. But Simonides, for it was he, had again disappeared. His next victim was Ismail Pasha, Khedive of Egypt, in whose garden the Greek dug up a box containing an ancient manuscript, for which the flattered dignitary at once gave him a round price. Later he sold to the Duke of Sutherland a forged letter front Alcibiades to Pericles for $4,200. From the point of view of a financier Simonides was certainly the most successful of all literary forgers.
A less successful contemporary
of his was the impostor Schapira, whose
“Moabite manuscript” and other works
in ancient Hebrew gave rise to consider-
able discussion and have been extensively
written about.
E. W. Mayo
Era Magazine - 1903
https://books.google.com/books?id=Nn9MAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA389
The Rose-Jar - 1905
https://books.google.com/books?id=10957ZxKsEwC&pg=PA200
From time to time the world of letters
is shaken up by a successful literary
imposture; and while these fraudulent
attempts were more frequent some gen-
erations ago, a fresh venture now and
again serves to show that the field is still
open. It is not very long, indeed, since
a commotion was caused by the exposure,
in London, of the man calling himself
Louis dc Rougcmont, whose story of a
thirty years’ experience among cannibal
blacks in Australia turned out to be
merely one of a long line of literary fakes
and frauds.
...
Mormon - Islam
Undoubtedly the greatest of modern literary forgers was the Greek, Alcibiades Simonides, who died no longer ago than 1890. It is a question indeed if Simonides has ever had an equal in his peculiar calling. To the sublime impudence of Psalmanazar, he added accomplishments which were invaluable to him in the particular line of work which he had selected. He was a chemist, an artist and a lithographer, a combination especially valuable in the manufacture of ancient manuscripts, which was the forte of this modem Alcibiades. In 1835 Simonides appeared in Athens and laid before the king an ancient manuscript supposed to have been forever lost. His uncle and himself had discovered it in the cloister of Chilandri, on Mt. Athos. The delighted king paid $10,000 for the precious documents. In a year Simonides was back again with a fresh lot. This time it was ancient Homer, written on lotus leaves, that he had found. The king felt that lie could not afford to buy all of this, but he suggested to the directors of the University of Athens that they buy one-half of the manuscript and that lie would pay for the other half. A commission of
twelve scholars was appointed to examine the work. All but one reported in favor of its authenticity. This one, Professor Mavraki, insisted on further investigation, which brought out the peculiar fact that this ancient manuscript reproduced all the misprints of Wolff’s edition of
Homer. By this time Simonides had disappeared.
Some years later a man by the name of Baricourt appeared in Constantinople with a palimpsest history of the kings of Egypt and other Greek and Assyrian manuscripts that set the learned world agog. After submitting them to examination at the hands of eminent scholars in Berlin and Paris he sold them for $40,000. The publication of the palimpsest history had actually begun before the Egyptologist, Lepsius, discovered that it was in part a translation of some of his own writings. But Simonides, for it was he, had again disappeared. His next victim was Ismail Pasha, Khedive of Egypt, in whose garden the Greek dug up a box containing an ancient manuscript, for which the flattered dignitary at once gave him a round price. Later he sold to the Duke of Sutherland a forged letter front Alcibiades to Pericles for $4,200. From the point of view of a financier Simonides was certainly the most successful of all literary forgers.
A less successful contemporary
of his was the impostor Schapira, whose
“Moabite manuscript” and other works
in ancient Hebrew gave rise to consider-
able discussion and have been extensively
written about.
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Thanks!
Yes, I had noticed it was reported late, in 1890, but the event and name, if reported properly 40 years later, was c. 1850.
However, do any reports from c. 1850 show this Baricourt name?
Baricourt Shows up in a different report from E. W. Mayo in 1903:
Curious Literary Frauds
E. W. Mayo
Era Magazine - 1903
https://books.google.com/books?id=Nn9MAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA389
The Rose-Jar - 1905
https://books.google.com/books?id=10957ZxKsEwC&pg=PA200
Steven Avery
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Add url
Add pic of Lambrou messrnger
Add pic of Lambrou messrnger
Steven Avery
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From Lambrou
https://books.google.com/books?id=1DdAAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA407
1 (=1837). For another hand and ink¨The humble and sinful Sophronios least in a monk.
2 (p. 77). Epistle describing the character of the Savior Jesus Christ sent in Latin para II. Lentulus the then governor of the Romans in Judea. It was found among the Vatekoinos manuscripts." It is written in another hand.
3 (p. 85). Other periods of Saint John the Theologian." Another manuscript of John the Theologian at the end of the period.
https://books.google.com/books?id=1DdAAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA407
- 636.
- 636.
1 (=1837). For another hand and ink¨The humble and sinful Sophronios least in a monk.
2 (p. 77). Epistle describing the character of the Savior Jesus Christ sent in Latin para II. Lentulus the then governor of the Romans in Judea. It was found among the Vatekoinos manuscripts." It is written in another hand.
3 (p. 85). Other periods of Saint John the Theologian." Another manuscript of John the Theologian at the end of the period.
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CARM
https://forums.carm.org/threads/cod...nides-false-aliases.13504/page-2#post-1665061
Source:
https://purebibleforum.com/index.php?threads/simonides-sophronius.4450/#post-20419
OCR'd text from the images above with slight formatting modifications and emphasis added by me.
EVIDENCE OF SIMONIDES IN 1837
One day an idea popped up in my mind. Simonides had once listed the name "Sophronios," saying he had taken that name when he was a young man working among the monks at Mt. Athos. In the 1863 JSI. Simonides wrote:
"I was at Mount Athos for political reasons, and was habited as a monk, and was known as Sophronios and not as Simonides. These matters would be well under- stood by those who know the peculiar relations of the [Page 194] Greeks, Roman Catholics, and Turks in those regions, but may be incomprehensible to some of your readers."
One day I found something very interesting in Lampros' Catalogue of the books that were in the monasteries of Mt. Athos:
6143.636
Σωφρόνιος ο τάπανος και αμαρτωλός, ελάχιστος εν μονάχοις (1837) εκ
This means:
Sophronios the lowly and sinful, least among monks (1837)
To me, this sounds like Simonides. And we know that Simonides came to Mt. Athos in 1837. I think this is a reference to him on Mt. Athos in Panteleimon monastery.
My theory is that at this time, Simonides took on a monk's name in the customary form (same first letter S, picking a known saint's name) and became known as "Sophronios." I think that, beginning in 1837, Simonides followed the regular monks' habit (no pun intended) and went as Sophronios on Athos, either for the 14 months he studied under his uncle or for a few years until his great-uncle died.
[Page 193, Footnote 134]: Biographical Memoir by Charles Stewart (1859), pp. 6-7.
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EVIDENCE OF SIMONIDES IN 1837
One day an idea popped up in my mind. Simonides had once listed the name "Sophronios," saying he had taken that name when he was a young man working among the monks at Mt. Athos. In the 1863 JSI. Simonides wrote:
"I was at Mount Athos for political reasons, and was habited as a monk, and was known as Sophronios and not as Simonides. These matters would be well under- stood by those who know the peculiar relations of the [Page 194] Greeks, Roman Catholics, and Turks in those regions, but may be incomprehensible to some of your readers."
One day I found something very interesting in Lampros' Catalogue of the books that were in the monasteries of Mt. Athos:
6143.636
Σωφρόνιος ο τάπανος και αμαρτωλός, ελάχιστος εν μονάχοις (1837) εκ
This means:
Sophronios the lowly and sinful, least among monks (1837)
To me, this sounds like Simonides. And we know that Simonides came to Mt. Athos in 1837. I think this is a reference to him on Mt. Athos in Panteleimon monastery.
My theory is that at this time, Simonides took on a monk's name in the customary form (same first letter S, picking a known saint's name) and became known as "Sophronios." I think that, beginning in 1837, Simonides followed the regular monks' habit (no pun intended) and went as Sophronios on Athos, either for the 14 months he studied under his uncle or for a few years until his great-uncle died.
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Catalogue of the Greek manuscripts on Mount Athos
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Kirk translation of the Lambrou catalog
3 (σ.85). Ἑτεροι περιοδοι του αγιου Ιωαννου του Θεολογου." Αλλη δε χειρι¨Ἑθχη του Ιωαννου του Θεολογου εις το τελος τις περιοδου.
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3 (σ.85). Ἑτεροι περιοδοι του αγιου Ιωαννου του Θεολογου." Αλλη δε χειρι¨Ἑθχη του Ιωαννου του Θεολογου εις το τελος τις περιοδου.