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https://forums.carm.org/threads/codex-sinaiticus-the-facts.12990/page-35#post-1123253
ADD the similar 1853-1859 two-step theft and other thefts
Maybe add the midnight ride of Tischendorf Revere account
p. 83-84
Results of his researches : He has come into possession of [=ich bin in den Besitzgelangt von] 43 parchment folia of the Greek Old Testament which are some of the very oldest preserved in Europe. He believes they are from the mid-fourth century,and they are remarkable not only for their age but also other reasons. He also possesses 24 palimpsest folia with Arabic writing of the 12th century and Greek of the 8-9th century ; further, 4 similar palimpsest folia ; and finally, amongst other less significant things, 4 mutilated folia of a Greek New Testament of the 7-8th century. He has reported this to the head court preacher v. Ammon and expects to receive more money. He must cut his trip short : he wants to go to the patriarch inConstantinople in order to obtain the rest of the folia (beside the 43 he has) which remained at Sinai [=um noch den von jenen 43 Blättern auf dem Sinai verbliebenen Rest zu erhalten] ; thus he has suspended making a public announcement of his find. That his trip to Sinai was of interest to him in thousands of other ways his brotherwill certainly understand
Here was the conversation from 6 years back.
James changed his text in the blog as he had made a major error (he also changed a typo I pointed out.)
You confuse a statement of James as if it was mine. (Typical)
His blog otherwise is a good read, we agree that the “SAVED from FIRE” is nonsense. You should deal with that, instead of playing games.
James Snapp found some excellent material, but did not even know all the details, such as:
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1) his thief’s letter to Julius, explaining that leaves just came into his posession
2) five complete intact quires, easy to steal, that we see corroborated in the 1933 video
3) fact that Tisch fabricated the "saved from fire" story 15 years later, in 1859, (covered well by Kevin McGrane) as a cover story for the 1844 theft. Since the connection of the two ms. would come out in public sometime.
4) no monastery corroboration of his supposed right to take the 43 leaves.
5) the “coincidental” remarkable notes right at the end of the supposedly random 43 leaves
6) the accurate account from Kallinikos about Tischendorf abstracting the 1844 leaves, for which you think Simonides had a network of spies at the monastery
‘Abstracted secretly..”
“By permission of the Librarian/
7) Tisch’s tendency to using “Prince Regent” for monastery sneakiness
8) the Uspensky report from 1845 shows an intact manuscript
That is more than enough to know Tisch was lying in a desperate attempt to cover for the 1844 theft.
(Btw, we also have an account from 1859 that speaks of a midnight ride of Tischendorf Revere.)
Amazingly, we still have dupes.
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James Snapp (originally):
"according to Simonides, is how its pages turned up there in a basket in 1844"
My correction to James:
“ - the basket story was a total fabrication. We know from Uspensky that the ms was whole. And the basket was not referenced by Simonides (which is what your quote says). It was created by Tischendorf in 1859, 15 years after the first theft. “
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“the basket story” refers to the total lie from Tisch that he saved the 43 leaves in a basket from fire.
You flunk Context 101 again.
ADD the similar 1853-1859 two-step theft and other thefts
Maybe add the midnight ride of Tischendorf Revere account
p. 83-84
Results of his researches : He has come into possession of [=ich bin in den Besitzgelangt von] 43 parchment folia of the Greek Old Testament which are some of the very oldest preserved in Europe. He believes they are from the mid-fourth century,and they are remarkable not only for their age but also other reasons. He also possesses 24 palimpsest folia with Arabic writing of the 12th century and Greek of the 8-9th century ; further, 4 similar palimpsest folia ; and finally, amongst other less significant things, 4 mutilated folia of a Greek New Testament of the 7-8th century. He has reported this to the head court preacher v. Ammon and expects to receive more money. He must cut his trip short : he wants to go to the patriarch inConstantinople in order to obtain the rest of the folia (beside the 43 he has) which remained at Sinai [=um noch den von jenen 43 Blättern auf dem Sinai verbliebenen Rest zu erhalten] ; thus he has suspended making a public announcement of his find. That his trip to Sinai was of interest to him in thousands of other ways his brotherwill certainly understand
Here was the conversation from 6 years back.
James changed his text in the blog as he had made a major error (he also changed a typo I pointed out.)
You confuse a statement of James as if it was mine. (Typical)
His blog otherwise is a good read, we agree that the “SAVED from FIRE” is nonsense. You should deal with that, instead of playing games.
James Snapp found some excellent material, but did not even know all the details, such as:
=============================
1) his thief’s letter to Julius, explaining that leaves just came into his posession
2) five complete intact quires, easy to steal, that we see corroborated in the 1933 video
3) fact that Tisch fabricated the "saved from fire" story 15 years later, in 1859, (covered well by Kevin McGrane) as a cover story for the 1844 theft. Since the connection of the two ms. would come out in public sometime.
4) no monastery corroboration of his supposed right to take the 43 leaves.
5) the “coincidental” remarkable notes right at the end of the supposedly random 43 leaves
6) the accurate account from Kallinikos about Tischendorf abstracting the 1844 leaves, for which you think Simonides had a network of spies at the monastery
‘Abstracted secretly..”
“By permission of the Librarian/
7) Tisch’s tendency to using “Prince Regent” for monastery sneakiness
8) the Uspensky report from 1845 shows an intact manuscript
That is more than enough to know Tisch was lying in a desperate attempt to cover for the 1844 theft.
(Btw, we also have an account from 1859 that speaks of a midnight ride of Tischendorf Revere.)
Amazingly, we still have dupes.
============
James Snapp (originally):
"according to Simonides, is how its pages turned up there in a basket in 1844"
My correction to James:
“ - the basket story was a total fabrication. We know from Uspensky that the ms was whole. And the basket was not referenced by Simonides (which is what your quote says). It was created by Tischendorf in 1859, 15 years after the first theft. “
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“the basket story” refers to the total lie from Tisch that he saved the 43 leaves in a basket from fire.
You flunk Context 101 again.
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