the anabaptists practiced full submersion and their opponents did murderous "third baptism" - Felix Manz

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On 5 January 1527, Manz became the first martyr of the Swiss Brethren. Grebel had died of natural causes six months earlier, and Blaurock by 1528 was banished from the Swiss cantons.

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Why were Anabaptists drowned?
Grebel, Blaurock, and Felix Manz (1498-1527) were arrested and charged with revolutionary teaching. The civil authorities implemented the penalty of death by drowning (“He who dips shall be dipped!”), a cruel parody of the Anabaptist doctrine (indeed, “drowning” was called “the third baptism”).May 29, 2017

What type of baptism was not accepted by the Anabaptists?
The Anabaptists (as distinct from Paedo-baptists) thought the Reformers stopped half-way, and “did not go to the root of the evil. Their fundamental doctrine was, that baptism is a voluntary act, and requires personal repentance, and faith in Christ. They rejected infant-baptism as an anti-scriptural invention.
 
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Felix Manz (1498-1527)
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Felix Manz - Wikipedia

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Execution​

Memorial plate on the river wall opposite number 43 Schipfe in Zürich, in remembrance of Manz and other Anabaptists executed in the early 16th century by the Zürich city government
On 7 March 1526, the Zürich council had passed an edict that made adult re-baptism punishable by drowning. On 5 January 1527, Felix Manz became the first casualty of the edict, and the first Swiss Anabaptist to be martyred at the hands of magisterial Protestants. While Manz stated that he wished "to bring together those who were willing to accept Christ, obey the Word, and follow in His footsteps, to unite with these by baptism, and to purchase the rest in their present conviction", Zwingli and the council accused him of obstinately refusing "to recede from his error and caprice". At 3:00 p.m., as he was led from the Wellenburg to a boat, he praised God and preached to the people. A Reformed minister went along, seeking to silence him, and hoping to give him an opportunity to recant. Manz's brother and mother encouraged him to stand firm and suffer for Jesus' sake. He was taken by boat onto the River Limmat. His hands were bound and pulled behind his knees and a pole was placed between them. He was executed by drowning in Lake Zürich on the Limmat. His alleged last words were, "Into thy hands, O God, I commend my spirit." His property was confiscated by government of Zürich, and he was buried in the St. Jakobs cemetery. Manz's execution predates the Münster Rebellion which officially began in 1534.

Manz left written testimony of his faith, an eighteen-stanza hymn, and was apparently the author of Protestation und Schutzschrift (a defense of Anabaptism presented to the Zürich council).[3]

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Romans 6:3-6 (AV) —
Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death:
that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father,
even so we also should walk in newness of life.
For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death,
we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him,
that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

Colossians 2:12 (AV)
Buried with him in baptism,
wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God,
who hath raised him from the dead.

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Question - what were their water baptism doctrines - did they see remissions of sins Acts 2:38 involved ?

(1660) (1837) Thieleman Janszoon Braght - The bloody theater: or, Martyrs mirror - Joseph F. Sohm
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https://www.homecomers.org/mirror/martyrs050.htm

Anabaptism and Asceticism: A Study in Intellectual Origins
Kenneth R. Davis
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Anabaptism and Asceticism

Dr. Davis explores the Anabaptist emphasis on penitence, personal holiness, and active discipleship to Christ. He examines their view that discipleship involves the rejection of a life of affluence, the civil oath, and participation in the military and the magistracy.
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