Then what do you propose be done to limit the spread and further deaths?

Steven Avery

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Answering a Next-Door Question:

Then what do you propose be done to limit the spread and further deaths?

out of business - go go lockdown
Good question.

There really is very little happening now with further deaths. The numbers of the spread, and hospitalizations, and deaths, all have a sham element. Remember the book "How to Lie with Statistics"?

eg. Ventilators caused great numbers of deaths, and they were blamed on the "virus", but they were really the wrong treatment, terribly applied, simply because the ailment was misunderstood as sort-of pneumonia rather than a blood oxygen deficiency, and the ventilators were "the protocol".

Then they greatly expanded the number of symptoms that could be identified as Covid. And the diagnosis in many cases did not need any test at all.

The various testing methodologies has been a sham all along, and people could go in and out of positive and negative, and four positive tests and three negative for one person would be four covid cases.

The mass of cases are asymptomatic, meaning there really is no ailment, and the positive tests could easily be triggered by other common corona "viruses". And there really is little quality control on the various testing procedures, even if they actually tested for something that was scientifically identified.

So if you want to show a spike or second wave, you simply increase the number of tests, add a few million, even though most of the new supposed cases are asymptomatic.

To bloat the numbers, as an example, people on the last days of their cancer hospice style treatment can still be called covid, if they have some test or symptom. This type of nonsense has led to thousands of the covid deaths.

Money is often the motive for the covid diagnosis, and for getting people on the killer ventilators.

Totally false reports were put in by the Neil Ferguson guy in England to start the ball rolling. And later in bogus medical society journals like Lancet to discourage inexpensive chloroquine and hydroxychlorquine, very effective when part of a multi-orbed protocol. Phony pseudo-science claims to induce fear are everywhere.

Much of this was exposed on the net, and might slowly reach OAN or Fox, and occasionally even MSM, like the journal retractions.

And I have only scratched the surface here.

Learn to keep yourself healthy :)
You do that, and avoid the hospitals, and you should do very fine. Read and study the protocols of those who have been successful. You might find a doctor who actually understands this dynamic.

And I have not worn a mask or anti-social distanced for decades, and have not gotten one flu. Oh, I have not taken any vax since about 1958, that has helped keep me healthy. :)

Just some thoughts to help you see the dark fog of fear from the MSM.

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The main triggers of the phobia are the reports on MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC and many other venues. Since they are essentially owned by big Pharma, they will not emphasis staying healthy.
 

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NEJM
New England Journal of Medicine - May 21, 2020 - "little, if any, protection... reflexive reaction to anxiety"

Universal Masking in Hospitals in the Covid-19 Era
List of authors. - Michael Klompas, M.D., M.P.H., Charles A. Morris, M.D., M.P.H., Julia Sinclair, M.B.A., Madelyn Pearson, D.N.P., R.N., and Erica S. Shenoy, M.D., Ph.D.

**** "We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection.****

Public health authorities define a significant exposure to Covid-19 as face-to-face contact within 6 feet with a patient with symptomatic Covid-19 that is sustained for at least a few minutes (and some say more than 10 minutes or even 30 minutes). The chance of catching Covid-19 from a passing interaction in a public space is therefore minimal.
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**** In many cases, the desire for widespread masking is a reflexive reaction to anxiety over the pandemic." ****
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New England Journal of Medicine - May 21, 2020 - "little, if any, protection... reflexive reaction to anxiety"

Universal Masking in Hospitals in the Covid-19 Era
List of authors. - Michael Klompas, M.D., M.P.H., Charles A. Morris, M.D., M.P.H., Julia Sinclair, M.B.A., Madelyn Pearson, D.N.P., R.N., and Erica S. Shenoy, M.D., Ph.D.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2006372

**** "We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection.****

Public health authorities define a significant exposure to Covid-19 as face-to-face contact within 6 feet with a patient with symptomatic Covid-19 that is sustained for at least a few minutes (and some say more than 10 minutes or even 30 minutes). The chance of catching Covid-19 from a passing interaction in a public space is therefore minimal.

**** In many cases, the desire for widespread masking is a reflexive reaction to anxiety over the pandemic." ****
CDC - May, 2020

“We did not find evidence that surgical-type face masks are effective in reducing laboratory-confirmed influenza transmission, either when worn by infected persons or by persons in the general community to reduce their susceptibility...”

Nonpharmaceutical Measures for Pandemic Influenza in Nonhealthcare Settings—Personal Protective and Environmental Measures
Jingyi Xiao1, Eunice Y. C. Shiu1, Huizhi Gao, Jessica Y. Wong, Min W. Fong, Sukhyun Ryu, and Benjamin J. Cowling
CDC - May. 2020
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article
The Ethiopian terrorist who runs WHO, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, tried to walk this back, simply because that is the Pharma-$ cult fixation.

However, the paper has not been refuted or retracted.
As we enter the Twilight Zone with the Mask Cult :)

The Night of the Living Asymptomatics
twilight zone .. a virus so deadly.jpg


Here you can hear from the Illinois health authorities, one of the methods they do to inflate the death totals.

Illinois Department of Health Director Dr. Ngozi Eziki

"if you were in hospice .. given a few weeks to live .. you also were found to have covid .. counted as a covid death."

Daily Herald
Why you can't trust COVID death count
https://www.dailyherald.com/discuss/20200606/why-you-cant-trust-covid-death-count

longer quote
"If you were in hospice, given a few weeks to live and also found to have COVID, it counted as a COVID death. If you died of a clear alternate cause and had COVID at the same time, it's still listed as a COVID death. Everyone who's listed as a COVID death does not mean that was the cause, but they had COVID at the time of death."
https://www.dailyherald.com/discuss/20200606/why-you-cant-trust-covid-death-count

There are many other tricks, like the Florida testing stations with 100% positive. And massive increases in "cases" based on totally unreliable testing.

This finagling is well known by the "conspiracy theorists", however it usually is not explained in such a straightforward manner by the mask-lockdown pushers

Thus they can artificially create spikes and second waves.
Alex Berenson - posted July 8
from the British Medical Journal
RCT = Randomized Control Trial

1/ This is quite the paper on masks, published in @BMJ_Open
in 2015: a randomized trial (the gold standard, yadda yadda) of 1600 health-care workers showed those wearing masks were 6 times (!) as likely to have flu-like illnesses as those in the control group after 4 weeks...

"2/ The conclusion: “This study is the first RCT of cloth masks, and the results caution against the use of cloth masks... moisture retention, reuse of cloth masks, and poor filtration may result in an increased risk of infection.”

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NOT wearing masks is the healthy stance, absent situations like surgery rooms, cement and concrete dust and asbestos. (I think one of our construction guys here avoids it even on cement dust :) )

Let us read and understand the science and health, and not try to damage the health of 300 million people.
 
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