Do we have freewill ? Is it biblical ?

Arikel88

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We start from the beggining when Adam was giving the power to name the animals G-d gave him freewill to choose Genesis 2:20.
20 The man gave names to all livestock and to the birds of the heavens and to every beast of the field. But for Adam there was not found a helper fit for him.


Here G-d gives Adam gives him ability to think for himself and he decide the animals name.


There is difference from the freewill Hebrew people back in the days of Noah and Moses when the law was directed to G-d’s people they had freewill to decide. Their decision is under the law because they did not know other religions or ways they were narrowminded but still the decision from good and evil existed. Did the errors of their fathers before them I mean the fall of Adam stopped them making decisions in their life. Israel did what they want based still of need of surviving. Killing, eating, proceating needs of humanity but no matter what the error of Adam did not take freewill from them.


Romans 7:19 “For the good that I want, I do not do, but I practice the very evil that I do not want.”


Ezekiel 18:20 “The person who sins will die. The son will not bear the punishment for the father’s iniquity, nor will the father bear the punishment for the son’s iniquity; the righteousness of the righteous will be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked will be upon himself.”


Psalm 110:2 “Your people will volunteer freely in the day of Your power; In holy array, from the womb of the dawn, Your youth are to You as the dew.”


From the day pagans evolved into modern world and establish their own way. Even thou they seperated from their pagan worhsip Rome forced them to mix their deities and influence with christianism and robbed the followers of Christ of Jesus and they painted him white. Named the G-d of Israel to Zeus and change their panteon.


Hebrew law or mosaic law reminds people to obey but G-d has taken prophets to save and do the will of G-d in wars, missions, and choosing good and evil. They break the law in disobeying G-d, prophets like Jeremiah who chose G-d disobey tradition and his father and told Israel their errors and love for the temple forgotten the temple inside they are made of. Kick Jeremiah out of their circle rejected from society he continued, we have Moses who was ordered by God to pray to the rock and water will come out but Moses disobey and changes things and hit the rock. This angered God and told him he will not enter the promise land. Moses change what God said changed the destiny israel had to had an error while using the word of God,
Numbers 20:6-12
we have Huldah who made mistake in prophecy which A king said he was going to die A peaceful death 2 Chronicles 34:28 and then he died by arrows and had horrible mistake 2 Chronicles 35:22-24.

Here linkhttps://www.neverthirsty.org/bible-qa/qa-archives/question/do-prophets-of-god-make-mistakes-sometimes/

also Elijah who said Acab will die in one place and Acab did not die according to what Elijah said.
1 Kings 22:1-40

This what shows that destiny changed and the lord allowed it happen he can rewind and move it but he did not becuase he has A plan of God.

Still people can change their course in life if mistake happened like those times of moses. We can change our destiny by failure of men and women who with God prophecy was shown here with Moses and Huldah. Not saying you should make the same mistaek as they did for not God's fault even if moses and huldah with words change the future of Israel and changed the destiny God adjusted to show he forgives moses and Huldah and those did happen. Destiny of your life being a poor shoesales man, poor garbageman, and what you see in your future can always change but ask God for it and do not make the mistakes Moses and Huldah did.

Is how the Greek way of thinking of liberalism was popular in the time of Jesus. Showing liberalism in such easy ways that they think it is natural in the first step of democracy and philosophy in those times of greek thinking influence paul and the hebrew people in those days.


James 2:12 “So speak and so act as those who are to be judged by the law of liberty.”


2 Corinthians 3:17 “Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.”


And Greeks influence the time of jesus that people like Luke wrote his book in the bible and later Catholic church not knowing fully Hebrew culture copied things from greeks and influence the bible. Remember they were not G-d’s people but A country that stoled and wrote their intrepretation of G-d and took Jesus as an emblema that is not real.


Greek theology is freedom and rationalist thought, Hebrew people is Law and Relation with the one G-d. Greeks have influence the modernworld and gives them right, the western world copies Greek and Roman culture and their diffinity in their laws have given the modern topic freewill. So freewill clashes with freewill in the old times. That is why everything has to do with predestination, Calvanism go ahead and read see all our versions of choosing good and evil have consequences but still you decide your future.


There are 2 fields :indeterminism and determinism explain modern freewill and both give notion of control. Indeterminism means free acts are not determine in other words what you do with works does not foretold your future and the path you have chosen. Determinism says everything you do has already decided your future and you have no career. Nothing can change your destiny but G-d can.


Matthew 12:37 “For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.”


God’s general sovereignty- says god is in charge of everything but doesn’t control everything
God’s specific sovereignty- says that He not only has ordained everything, but He also controls everything.


Proverbs 16:9 “The mind of the man plans his way, but the Lord directs his steps.


Proverbs 3:5-6“Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways submit to him, and he will make your paths straight.”
 

Arikel88

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We have freewill God lets us decide to do good or bad and our purpose in life is when we make that decision. it’s easy to not know that purpose because we are different. But freewill God gives it but he also gives us the law and the law is not wrong and niether is freewill just soceity itself is wrong and we have forgotten what is the normal back in those days. Society mistakes and thinks G-d is against freewill but gave freewill the right to choose and they have invented freewill is voting, paying taxes, and civics duties.
No people those things are the mistake modern society makes because they think they have evolved in such A way they surpass all of Israel back in those day but truth G-d is fair and gave us all. We have lost what is important love because human society is wrong and it’s foundation is false and invented by masons.
G-d created it all the rocks, the atmosphere, everything has been giving and from all that we have built buildings and empires everything we have built has come from him modern world is our work and act but we do not acknowledge them we take the glory and everything for we are sinful. The concept of government we have created but we emulated it from G-d and his kingdom the order G-d has it first, the structure he establish since the dawn of the universe.


We have created rights but we cannot use our rights agaisnt G-d and say he has violated them or civic manner say our freedom and establishment of our democracy hits against G-d and his kingdom. For he has the kingdom and the law. The law of his word and we do not have that for G-d gave us words but we are babylon the law is only his. Nor it belongs to hebrew people, eunuchs, or angels it only belongs to him to judge.
Our own system is flaw because we copy from each empire that has been establish Babylon, Rome, Greece, Britian, and Nazi Germany. Each has given its concept of right and law and all have copied each other and failed. Because again bible has establish that G-d and his system works and we with our notion of democracy and rights have copied on Rome and Babylon and they are wrong.
The most important things that because we have technology which has help us after world war 2 we think we have surpass it all and enter the digitla world and we circumvalent our promblems of family, corruption, and normal things we had before the 1950’s and think we are gods. And we want to be eternal and to be like powerful like G-d because it is what we have always been thinking because all of it is copy. When we are original and have the right system like he does everything works but our government and system does not because we are with flaws and our own boundaries aren’t the solutions they are A reminder that we will never have A perfect system thus our rights and belief in them cannot be the truth.
The freewill is revealed that there is A difference from freewill with G-d on accepting the right and wrong and succeeding in that way and from freewill from our modern concept which has failed and clashes with G-d’s law which is right and truth and unless we do not use our rights against G-d freewill is that what we make only A lie and it existence false.


Freewill from that point of view is that of society and since society has masonry in it and all foundations of masonery is babylon and Dagon it compells people to make G-d like unfair despotism but you cannot apply that to G-d for he is G-d and he is God of Gods those words are just feeble people who make laws copying the old empires and fallacy arrives in it’s policy.
There is A way government can follow G-d’s politics but that will be another day. But people and society will always collapse confronting and using thier rights and saying there is no freewill when you have to one understand things from G-d’s point of view understand what serveth the law, how the law is completed thru love and how faith as A tool helps you make A better realtionship with G-d.
When you find the truth and love in his way that G-d establish thru Jesus Christ you understand A secret way which freewill co-exist with G-d and love is what that bound unites it and makes freewill work but not under modern society but thru G-d mosaic law and know that is true freewill has been given to you but from the stance of modern world and republics establish go into error.
 

Oseas

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We start from the beggining when Adam was giving the power to name the animals G-d gave him freewill to choose Genesis 2:20.
There was a population(Adam)in the Garden of Eden, they were in the Garden of GOD ruled by an annointed Cherub created by GOD, to covers and protect the Garden, the workmanship of his tabrets and of his pipes was prepared in him in the day that he was created.

GOD called or named the human race by Adam, individually each man is an Adam, Adam universally means of human nature (animal nature) according to the Scriptures-1Corinthians 15:45-46.

GOD said to the man: Genesis 2:16-17
16 And the Lord GOD COMMANDED the man, saying, ... of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou SHALL NOT EAT of it:... Where is the free will?

20 The man gave names to all livestock and to the birds of the heavens and to every beast of the field.
As you have posted: "Here GOD gives Adam gives him ability to think for himself and he decide the animals name".
But for Adam there was not found a helper fit for him.
Speaking of the helper, Paul wrote: This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the Church, His body. Christ also loved the Church, and gave Himself for it, therefore the Church is subject unto Christ.
The creation of a helper to the man, this ocurred in the fourth Day, or around 4000 years after Adam, or around 2000 years ago, when the Word was made flesh, and He said: My Father worketh hitherto (it still was the fourth Day), and I work.

Hebrews 1:1-3
1 GOD, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

2 Hath in these last days (last two Days or 2000 years) spoken unto us by His Son, whom He hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also He made the worlds;

3 Who being the brightness of His glory, and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:

GOD bless
 

Oseas

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We have freewill God lets us decide to do good or bad and our purpose in life is when we make that decision.
That's the problem. GOD said: Genesis 2:17-
17 Of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof
thou shalt surely die.

Proverbs 18:21- Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.

JAMES 3:6-8
6 And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity:
so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.
7 For every kind of beasts, and of birds, and of serpents, and of things in the sea, is tamed, and hath been tamed of mankind:
8 The tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.

JESUS said: Matthew 15:11 & 18-19

11 Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the MOUTH, this defileth a man.

18 The things which proceed out of the MOUTH come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.
19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:

Romans 3:10-18

10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after GOD.

12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. (but DOES good AND BAD -> the man is the tree of good and bad)
13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:
14 Whose MOUTH is full of cursing and bitterness:


15 Their feet are swift to shed blood:
16 Destruction and misery are in their ways:

17 And the way of peace have they not known:
18 There is no fear of GOD before their eyes.

Again: Genesis 2:17- Of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil thou shalt not eat of it for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.-> (the man made of the dust has eyes but doesn't see, has ears but doesn't hear, has mouth but doesn't speak of GOD's things-the Word of GOD-, only after GOD breathed into his nostrils the breath of life man became a living soul.-Isaiah 2:22): but of this tree of the knowledge of good and evil thou shalt not eat of it, for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

John 3:3 - > JESUS said to Nicodemus: -> Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of GOD.

The last ENEMY that shall be destroyed is death. 1Corinthians 15:24-26 and 51-58

GOD BLESS
 

Arikel88

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Sorry lot of work but got good stuff to talk and biblical please look.

We continue with freewill and lucifer if he had freewill but continuing on what freewill and here something very importnat if we had freewill.


If the word exist in the world there is the word in hebrew.
“Freedom of Choice;” a fundamental belief of the Jewish Religion. “Bechirah” means “choice;” “Chofshit” means “free.” The concept means that the human being is not forced to choose “good” or “evil,” but is free to choose between them. This is, of course, the most fundamental choice of all, the one which the Bible associates with the choice between “life” and “death,” for which the Bible recommends “Choose Life.” Or, as the Talmud teaches “Everything is in the hands of Heaven except the “fear of Heaven.”

The belief in free will (Hebrew: bechirah chofshit בחירה חפשית, bechirah בחירה) is in jewish thought axiomatic thought , and is closely linked with the concept of reward and punishment, based on the Torah itself: "I [God] have set before you life and death, blessing and curse: therefore choose life" (Deuteronomy 30:19).
Free will is therefore discussed at length in jewish philosophy, firstly as regards God's purpose in creation, and secondly as regards the closely related, resultant, paradox. The topic is also often discussed in connection with negative theology, divine simplicity and divine providence, as well as jewish principals of faith in general.
God does give us a choice limited but we have limited freewill.

Also the word לִבְחוֹר
livkhór is ( To choose )
together with this word
חֵרוּת

( Freedom ) another word.

Freewill did existed and in Deutronomy 30:19 God did give a choice two but still he did. And life is a good choice a great choice. Is their more of freewill in Judaism ? Yes, there is more and more to come. The best is yet to come !
 

Arikel88

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People the choosing right or wrong and have the freedom to choose it was something G-d gave and he gave it to Adam that is why he disobeyed if he could not he would of not of fallen. The reason freewill has and even I don't like saying the devil had freewill. So know that freedom of deciding even do the word freewill does not exist in hebrew language and have found the same question the truth is that freedom to choose and disobey G-d has existed before the bible and angels and man have it.

It does not the word or phrase freewill does not exist in the hebrew langauge it conception does not exist. But still to choose " לבחור" It is what closest word to freewill of choosing is.
 

Arikel88

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but free does not exit with it and it does not mean the same thing in modern times. Liberals, democracy, and tea party do not mean the same thing in old time hebrew and wouldn't mean that.

see that you have all the right to choose good or evil and everything is choices you make but like moses who should pray for the water but instead stroke it. Also Hulda who made mistake in prophecy or the kings of israel all have made mistakes and change the course of destiny but still God's plan adapts to thier errors not God for he dones not make errors. But still things willbe different if they didn't do those things but all works good at the end.
 

Arikel88

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The importance is to put things in God's hands even if it's hard to do the freewill put things in God hands no matter what. Even we say now in our modern times putting our hands is that we are happy and thankful for what happens and faithful. Did people back in the old put thier ahnds in God trusted him ?


Yes


Psalm 138:7
your gith hand saves me and that action required for us to put our hands in his ;D.


1 Peter 5:6


humble and he will life you with his hands


proverbs 29:25


Trust in the lord


Ecclesiastes 2:24


From his hand


Isaias 48:13


His hand have created all




the most important hand
Deuteronomy 7:8


His hand took Israel from Egypt.


Even it is not possibel for he all powerful to walk blindfolded and he holds your hands and guides you get to heaven sometimes we must take chances in life.
 

Arikel88

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People the scripture uses the word "will"
בצוואה
and "free"
But to describe a person as free, as in not a slave, you’d say בֶּן/בַּת חוֹרִין (ben/baht hoh-REEN

Free and will do exist but to make in concept it is need the thing of freedom and good and evil the conscience to be able in hebrew in writting but they cuould not explain they did not have the experience of government,freedom of women, freedom of slavery, and concept of theology were needed but still the base is that choice by God to be with him in doing good or evil but consequence is death for evil or eternal life for good.


Their is gray area and that is Elijah's error, Moses Error, and Huldah as prophets that they made mistakes and change the destiny of the plan of God but God cover it with forgivness and let them learn from thier errors for A purpose and all purpose being good or evil will be in the end A happy ending in revelations. Put things in God hands and put love they God and nieghbor and he will do the rest ;D.
 

Oseas

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Their is gray area and that is Elijah's error, Moses Error, and Huldah as prophets that they made mistakes and change the destiny of the plan of God but God cover it with forgivness and let them learn from thier errors for A purpose and all purpose being good or evil will be in the end A happy ending in revelations. Put things in God hands and put love they God and nieghbor and he will do the rest ;D.
Before God and His Word, there is no free will or such a thing.

When the Hebrews worshiped the golden calf, it was not a choice or free will(Deuteronomy 32:17-29); When they killed the true prophets of GOD, it was not a choice or free will. When they crucified JESUS, it was not a choice or free will; God had already shown Himself to them; they had already heard GOD speak to them; therefore, all their evil behavior through disobedience was not due a free will; this DEMONIC THEORY DOES NOT EXIST in the Word of GOD, in the things of GOD.

In fact, what happens in the acts practiced by men is not free will; being children of the Devil, the Devil has dominion over them,, so, on the other hand, there is no dominion of GOD in them. Therefore, there is no free will; either you are dominated by the power of the Devil and you will do the lusts of your father, the Devil, or you are guided by the Spirit of GOD, having Him as your Father, then you will do the works of GOD, and He will have dominion over you.

Genesis 3:22-> And the LORD God said, Behold, the man has become as one of us, to know good and evil:
Genesis 2:17-> And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it (i.e. you shall not eat OF MAN, thetree of good and evil), for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. (Of course)

That is why I do not agree with the words of you, as written above, I do not eat of what you have said in all your posts above because it is MORTAL, it is of the tree of good and evil, I refuse and refute it. I only eat of the fruit of the tree of Life, JESUS is the tree of life: He said: John 6:48-51-> 48 I am the bread of life, 50 This is the bread that comes down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof and not die. 51 I am the living bread that came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live forever.

That said, what you are seling by to feed people by your messages above it is DEADLY, it kills the souls, them which are carried to and fro by every wind of doctrine, by the deceit-Genesis 3:1- of men, in cunning craftiness, in deceitful schemes.

Your thinking is from a human perspective, a STUMBLING BLOCK,->(Genesis 3:1 combined with John 3:31-36), not from GOD's perspective.

Be careful or else get ready
 
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Arikel88

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You do not understand what I mean when I wrote this about hulda and moses, their is more to destiny. The freedom to choose existed in heaven we do not know what existed before God created the universe. The freewill Moses used and hit the rock was an error and he disobey God. God could of punish Moses with death but he forgave him and punish him with no entering the promiseland. Moses did the wrong thing and because of his actions Israel had to wait to enter more years the generation of Moses that could not enter and their children enter. They died.

Even of his error God's path continued their is decision we all make and we could always make better decision and we all fail like Moses.

Freewill is not demonic Oseas God created freewill we do not know what he did before creation of the universe but when he created heaven and earth he decided it Oseas. Freewill is modern word and calvin does not decide the rules but God decide. I see Oseas you don't know that freewill does exist int he bible and the old words for it.

“Bechirah” means “choice;” “Chofshit” means “free.” "Free Choice "

Oseas I see you don't know I posted freewill and it has to do with God's plans and God's plan exist in the bible.

The phrase "plan of God" most commonly originates from the Bible verse Jeremiah 29:11, which states "For I know the plans I have for you, declares the Lord, plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.".


It is says plans and if God said it he said the word plan from his mouth it come form him which means " His plan ".

Oseas you do not know me i'll ask you too read the whole thing because i'm gonna finish and people who found this and do understand God's plan and said they discover things to help them find God personal mission for them. I had talk with many and they do understand that what I have written is define choices and does it exist ? Is it use in hebrew we have " Freechoice " it does.

Oseas I sense your old and you do not know how I wrote things and do not know. Here please look at the end of this. Here in this forum I wrote everything and good things.

 

Arikel88

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Here read this please.

freewill was not created by the devil but God created freewill and he uses it in heaven without limitations for good. The world is wrong for they cannot hold such a good gift like freewill and humans don't see that God's freewill what he wanted man to do with it in the Eden did give them freedom. Do you want to know who is an example of a man who did complete freewill and did what God wanted ?


Jesus is the example of how to use freewill in this world and against the devil and sin. Jesus did complete God's word and with love and it is something I wrote before. So people if freewill is a devil ploy or freewill was never meant for humans to use no you don't know God did not want freewill to be a closed box and did not want us to be robots who do not question or simply mindless robots. No God gave us freewill and it's actions in sin don't save us but only Jesus in his love and works, he's sacrifice is our salvationis how we can do freewill like God want us using Jesus as our mediator and trust in him and let him in our life so he can take those decisions and put it in his hands.

You can't do it all in yoru life with your own efforts but Jesus can do for you if you keep thy commandments and keep the 2 of love Jesus says. Be baptized and if you done those things he will show you the mission he sent you. He will give to you because you prayed sacrifice more and tell him you want know and that you want he's help and you will be faithful to the end and he will give to you all.
 

Oseas

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You do not understand what I mean when I wrote this about hulda and moses, their is more to destiny. The freedom to choose existed in heaven we do not know what existed before God created the universe.
What is heaven? Your words reflect your ignorance about what heaven is. You are revealing your own blindness here.
The freewill Moses used and hit the rock was an error and he disobey God. God could of punish Moses with death but he forgave him and punish him with no entering the promiseland. Moses did the wrong thing and because of his actions Israel had to wait to enter more years the generation of Moses that could not enter and their children enter. They died.
Even of his error God's path continued their is decision we all make and we could always make better decision and we all fail like Moses.
You did not chose what you wrote above, you were inspired by the spirit of lie, the same of the MAN of sin-Genesis 3:1. Moses used not freewill, this is the spirit of lie who says things like that. Moses was tempted something similar like JESUS being tempted in the desert. But where was the Devil that tempted Moses to do different of GOD's instruction? The Devil was within the people, the rebbells(except Calleb), the Rock was JESUS, it was enough to speak to the Rock, but Satan used the rebel people to tempt Moses (of the same manner in the golden calf) to do different of GOD's instruction.

What you have written in your post is not of your frewill, it is doctrines of demons you have drank from the messengers of Devil. My Lord JESUS said: Matthew 15:19--> For out of the heart proceed false witness, evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, blasphemies:
Freewill is not demonic Oseas God created freewill we do not know what he did before creation of the universe but when he created heaven and earth he decided it Oseas. Freewill is modern word and calvin does not decide the rules but God decide. I see Oseas you don't know that freewill does exist int he bible and the old words for it.
GOD never decided what you think and say. GOD Himself says: Isaiah 55:8-9:->...my thoughts are not your thoughts, For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my thoughts higher than your thoughts. (If the Word of GOD, Word of Truth, was in your heart, you would never have written the devilish things you have written).
Oseas I see you don't know I posted freewill and it has to do with God's plans and God's plan exist in the bible.
You are a sower of lies, forger of the Word of GOD.-Genesis 3:1. (I do not eat nothing from you, as my GOD warned since the beginning: Genesis 3:22-24 combined with 2:17->17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. (NOTE: I have written all the things above because of the readers and to the discernment of each one of them)
The phrase "plan of God" most commonly originates from the Bible verse Jeremiah 29:11, which states "For I know the plans I have for you, declares the Lord, plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.".
Now, even now, and from now on, what matters and prevails is the current plan of GOD, as JESUS revealed by His angel, in fact, an archangel: Revelation 11:15-18: ->(combined with 1Corinthians 15:24-28, take a look)
15 ... The kingdoms OF THIS WORLD are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,

17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.

18 And the NATIONS were(WILL BE)angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and should DESTROY them which destroy the earth.
It is says plans and if God said it he said the word plan from his mouth it come form him which means " His plan ".
Oseas you do not know me i'll ask you too read the whole thing because i'm gonna finish and people who found this and do understand God's plan and said they discover things to help them find God personal mission for them. I had talk with many and they do understand that what I have written is define choices and does it exist ? Is it use in hebrew we have " Freechoice " it does.
You are sleeeping like the foolish virgins, your lamp is going out, by the way, the letter kills, the Spirit gives life. What you have written is good for nothing.
The Word of GOD is from everlasting to everlasting,the Word is GOD,GOD the Father,GOD Himself, self-executing/executable, understand?
What matters and prevails is the Word of GOD-Hebrews 1:1-3, take a look.
Oseas I sense your old and you do not know how I wrote things and do not know. Here please look at the end of this. Here in this forum I wrote everything and good things.

Your sense is irrelevant and is good for nothing, the things you have written, your DEMONIC teachings will be burned with everlasting fire from now on. Revelation 12: 9->And the great Dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his messengers were(will be) cast out with him.
 

Oseas

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Here read this please.

freewill was not created by the devil but God created freewill and he uses it in heaven without limitations for good. The world is wrong for they cannot hold such a good gift like freewill and humans don't see that God's freewill what he wanted man to do with it in the Eden did give them freedom. Do you want to know who is an example of a man who did complete freewill and did what God wanted ?


Jesus is the example of how to use freewill in this world and against the devil and sin. Jesus did complete God's word and with love and it is something I wrote before. So people if freewill is a devil ploy or freewill was never meant for humans to use no you don't know God did not want freewill to be a closed box and did not want us to be robots who do not question or simply mindless robots. No God gave us freewill and it's actions in sin don't save us but only Jesus in his love and works, he's sacrifice is our salvationis how we can do freewill like God want us using Jesus as our mediator and trust in him and let him in our life so he can take those decisions and put it in his hands.

You can't do it all in yoru life with your own efforts but Jesus can do for you if you keep thy commandments and keep the 2 of love Jesus says. Be baptized and if you done those things he will show you the mission he sent you. He will give to you because you prayed sacrifice more and tell him you want know and that you want he's help and you will be faithful to the end and he will give to you all.
Genesis 3:1-6
3 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:

3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to


Genesis 3:12-15
12 And the man said to GOD:-> The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.

13And the Lord God said unto the woman,What is this that thou hast done?And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

14 And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed ...
upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:


You, Arikel, and who is like you, were born only from the dust, the dust is the main food of the Devil, so by your testimony above you were swallowed by the old Serpent, God put enmity between the seed of woman and the seed of the Devil, like Cain, the first that was of Devil.

GOD said: Genesis 3:15 -> And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
 

Arikel88

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People God told us when we were heaven what mission he wanted us to do and here many have said what's their purpose in life.

We start with true love and one where a couple have said it was meant to be and another that we identify they were said by God to be together forever in love that is a good thing.

The first one is biblical and it Abraham and Sarah you see that no couple was emant to be together that their union was the plan of God and their purpose thanks to their seed. A nation will exist and Jesus was gonna come out of it !
Then from the of ancient times real world comes
Queen Victoria and Prince Albert

Their marriage was initially politically motivated, but they developed a deep love for each other over time. They were meant to be with each other.
and another

Joséphine de Beauharnais and Napoleon Bonaparte
Joséphine was Napoleon's first wife, and some say she was his true love.
This are some stories about them how they found the plan of God and now about some that found their purpose and why God sent them that are not true love.

Biblically found are John the baptist he knew he was sent by God and when Jesus came to him John baptized him know he was God and said he was not worthy and wanted to him to baptzied him but Jesus told him what prophecy said must be fulfilled big important thing there.

Next Moses he knew God sent him to this world to save his people and knew why his purpose. God does reveal to his prophet the plan personally when he talks to them we see in the bible.
People in modern times I will say Doug Batchelor a man who was in sin and God made hims turn his way.
Billy Graham were people who knew God sent them here and knew what plan God had for them.
Not all are the same God has a diffrent plan for each but all together is his plan.

Matthew 19:11-21​


11 But Jesus said, "Not everyone is mature enough to live a married life. It requires a certain aptitude and grace. Marriage isn't for everyone.

12 Some, from birth seemingly, never give marriage a thought. Others never get asked - or accepted. And some decide not to get married for kingdom reasons. But if you're capable of growing into the largeness of marriage, do it."


Perhaps is not to find the true love but wait and you will meet him/her you will see god sent you here not becuase to find the one you want because he has her or him in heaven and sent you to do something to save the life of a person and when you comeback she/him will be waiting for your return we are not all the same and they are different destinies for everyone.
 

Arikel88

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People how to find your purpose or why God sent you here. Here have put many biblical and real life moments and their antural action in life for them to find how they discover why God sent them. Please look 10 from real life and others are biblical.



1.Adverisity


2.Passion

3. Religion

4.Exploration

5.Creativity

6.Activism

7.Perseverance

8.Innovation

9.Teaching

10.Personal Growth

This are way people in real life found their mission and discover it. God's plan help them even though it was him and you don't know God help on the way.
 

Arikel88

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Osea don't close yourself many ahve looked and liked and realize they have a plan and God wants you to find you purpose, the personal plan he sent you and find it. Look for it because it will solve all your promblems. God bless.

Don't worry Oseas I have friends who are uploading my stuff in diffrent forums and making accounts for me. And more channels their uploading God is helping me. I have a lot of computers and uploading in different places.
 

Oseas

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Osea don't close yourself many ahve looked and liked and realize they have a plan and God wants you to find you purpose, the personal plan he sent you and find it. Look for it because it will solve all your promblems. God bless.

Don't worry Oseas I have friends who are uploading my stuff in diffrent forums and making accounts for me. And more channels their uploading God is helping me. I have a lot of computers and uploading in different places.
What you are saying and doing is irrelevant, it is good for nothing, and will be burned with everlasting fire. I can not speak unto you as a spiritual , but as a carnal, for he that is of the earth is earthly and speaks of the earth, you do the works of your father, and he never abode in Truth. If any man build upon the foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble, every man's work shall be made manifest: for the Day shall declare it (that is the current Lord's Day, the seventh and last Day, or seventh and last millennium), because it shall be revealed by FIRE; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.


I do what my Lord commanded me to do.
I'm a reaper. He said me: Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe. And gather you together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them, cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of GOD, but gather the wheat into my barn. t's it.
 

Oseas

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brotherjacob said:
THE THREE TREES (A devotional)

There existed three trees. Three trees with three meanings. Three destinies for all of mankind. What are those three trees?

The first two trees were in the Garden of Eden. The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil and the Tree of Life. The Tree of the knowledge of Good and evil was a prohibited tree. Enoch describes the tree as somewhat like a tamarind tree with great fragrance and fruit resembling fine grapes (Book of Enoch 31:4). This tree became like a tree of death. Why? Because our ancestors, Adam and Eve partook of the fruit and brought sin and death into this world.
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Dear brother Jacob

To say "the tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil is like a tamarind tree with great fragrance and fruit resembling fine grapes (Book of Enoch 31:4)", it is a MYTH, and has nothing to do with the Word of GOD. You made your comment based on a myth, so what you commented on is also a myth, in the language of JESUS, that is tares.
GOD said: --> Genesis 3:22-24 combined with 2:17->17But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Genesis 3:22-24:--> 22 And the Lord God said, Behold, the MAN is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: ... So, we cannot eat of the Word of GOD, GOD is life, the Word is GOD, and JESUS is the tree of life, and also to eat of the tree of good and evil, like the MYTH above of Enoch about a tamarind tree.

Genesis 3:1-6 -->1 Now the serpent (the MAN OF SIN that deceive the world as whole)was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord GOD had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath GOD said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:

3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, GOD hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

4 And the serpent (the MAN of sin, now the red Dragon-Revelation 12:9) said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

5 For GOD doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food(knowing good and evil), and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise(knowing good and evil), she took of the fruit thereof(today, doctrines of demons, false interpretations of the Word of GOD, etc.-2Corinthians 11:13-15, for example, take a look), and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

Genesis 3:12-15

12 And the man said to GOD:-> The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.

13And the Lord GOD said unto the woman,What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent (the MAN of sin) beguiled me, and I did eat.

14 And the Lord GOD said unto the serpent(THE MAN of sin), Because thou hast done this, thou art CURSED ... upon thy belly shalt thou go(What is born of the man of sin is made from the dust of the earth, is earthly, like Cain-John 3:31 combined with 1John 3:12, take a look), and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: (Meditate / reflect on this to understand better: Revelation 12:4 --> and the dragon(Revelation 12:9, take a look) stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. (This terrible and evil and satanic scenary occurred with the mankind in these lasst 6000 years, since the birth of Cain, but in this specific case of Revelation 12:4, GOD caught up unto Him the man child,and to his throne(GOD's throne?Psalms 97:2 combined with Psalms 89:14, take a look, and John 1:11-14).

Who was born only from the dust, the dust is the main food of the Devil, so except JESUS all were born from the dust of the earth, and were swallowed by the old Serpent since the birth.

May our Lord GOD bless and keep us, and give us His protection
Amen
 
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