Jeremiah 8:8 "the pen of the scribes is in vain" - mistranslation "lying pen of the scribes"

Steven Avery

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Jeremiah 8:8 (AV)
How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us?
Lo, certainly in vain made he it; the pen of the scribes is in vain.

You are quoting a mistranslation of the Hebrew 'in vain' idiom. Most all the Jewish translations get this right, and the Geneva and AV also had very learned Hebraists. Modern 'Christian' translations often mangle the OT text.
https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/t...“i-am-god-worship-me”.8420/page-5#post-392211

f you want to be informed on Jeremiah 8:8, here is a good help, but if you are sincere and informed you would have to drop the "lying scribes" attempt.

Jeremiah 8:8 "the pen of the scribes is in vain" - the Muslims & Bogus bibles
Will Kinney
https://brandplucked.webs.com/jeremiah88penscribes.htm
http://textus-receptus.com/wiki/Art...pen_of_the_scribes_is_in_vain_by_Wiill_Kinney

And I wrote a lot about this c. 2008, I think Will incorporated some of my studies.
 
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Steven Avery

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Jewish Virtual Library The Tanakh [Full Text] 1998

How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us? Lo, certainly in vain made he it; the pen of the scribes is in vain.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/yirmeyahu-jeremiah-chapter-8

The Hebrew Transliteration Scriptures 2010 - Hinei, certainly in vain made he [it]; the pen of the scribes [is] in vain.
https://www.messianic-torah-truth-seeker.org/Scriptures/Tenakh/YirmeYahu/YirmeYahu08.htm

The JPS (Jewish Publication Society) 1917 - How do ye say: 'We are wise, and the Law of the LORD is with us'? Lo, certainly in vain hath wrought the vain pen of the scribes.
https://www.studylight.org/desk/index.cgi?sr=1&search_form_type=general&q1=Jeremiah+8:8&s=0&t1=en_jps
 
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Steven Avery

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https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1 Kings 22:20-25&version=KJV

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1 Kings 22:20-25 (KJV)
And the LORD said, Who shall persuade Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramoth-gilead? And one said on this manner, and another said on that manner. And there came forth a spirit, and stood before the LORD, and said, I will persuade him. And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so. Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil concerning thee. But Zedekiah the son of Chenaanah went near, and smote Micaiah on the cheek, and said, Which way went the Spirit of the LORD from me to speak unto thee? And Micaiah said, Behold, thou shalt see in that day, when thou shalt go into an inner chamber to hide thyself.

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