Jeremy M. Hammond appeal to bacteriophage analogy

Steven Avery

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https://twitter.com/stevenaveryny/status/1565385267401424898
Hi Frank, I asked Jeremy Hammond to relate to the missing original Science that supposedly discovered that “viruses” hijack cell replication functions. Top of comments section at
https://www.jeremyrhammond.com/2022/08/26/misinformation-sars-cov-2-whole-genome-sequencing/
Jeremy danced around with a little game, can you or your sources do better?

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Jeremy, above you try to use a bacteriophage analogy, but at least you acknowledge that even the dubious concepts do not apply to human viruses:

“Also, bacteriophages would not replicate inside of any cell lines used to culture pathogenic human or animal viruses.”

There is a more fundamental question of what is a bacteriophage, about which Stefan Lanka notes:

“The “bacteriophages”, correctly defined as incomplete mini spores and building blocks of the bacteria, have been scientifically isolated ...”

So, let’s avoid the contested analogy.

One fundamental definition of human and primate ‘viruses’ is that their replication is accomplished by hijacking the cell replication function for virus reproduction.

And I have pointed out to you that this incredible cell hijacking feature of viruses only became ‘science’ by osmosis and peer confirmation bias. I asked you and Frank Visser to find the replicable, seminal, ground-breaking studies that established this new dogma. From c. 1950s when this new theory came forth, and there is nothing there. The science is sand.

After a number of your normal diversions, you gave only an “everybody knows” answer.
https://twitter.com/jeremyrhammond/status/1568973107238420481?s=61&t=J6pTy3pItYImdbizG4DOzg

“It is unnecessary to cite references for completely uncontroversial statements expressing common knowledge amounted over decades of scientific literature. …”

Jeremy, that does not cut it.
Virology can not have a non-existent scientific base and be accepted as scientific.
Try again.

Thanks!

Steven Avery
 
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Steven Avery

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Hi Frank, my question has nothing to do with “terrainist” theory. It is not even “viruses invading cells”, or leaving by lysis or budding.

Just find the original Science that supported the c. 1950 theory of ‘viruses’ hijacking cell replication. If there is none, why not?

https://twitter.com/.
stevenaveryny/status/1566088823624318977?s=61&t=J6pTy3pItYImdbizG4DOzg
 

Steven Avery

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https://twitter.com/jeremyrhammond/status/1582062649340149760

Answering Tom Conan’s Five Simple Questions for Virologists
https://www.jeremyrhammond.com/2022...cowans-five-simple-questions-for-virologists/

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Jeremy, above you try to use a bacteriophage analogy, but at least you acknowledge that even the dubious concepts do not apply to human viruses:

“Also, bacteriophages would not replicate inside of any cell lines used to culture pathogenic human or animal viruses.”

There is a more fundamental question of what is a bacteriophage, about which Stefan Lanka notes:

“The “bacteriophages”, correctly defined as incomplete mini spores and building blocks of the bacteria, have been scientifically isolated ...”

So, let’s avoid the contested analogy.

One fundamental definition of human and primate ‘viruses’ is that their replication is accomplished by hijacking the cell replication function for virus reproduction.

And I have pointed out to you that this incredible cell hijacking feature of viruses only became ‘science’ by osmosis and peer confirmation bias. I asked you and Frank Visser to find the replicable, seminal, ground-breaking studies that established this new dogma. From c. 1950s when this new theory came forth, and there is nothing there. The science is sand.

After a number of your normal diversions, you gave only an “everybody knows” answer.
https://twitter.com/jeremyrhammond/status/1568973107238420481

“It is unnecessary to cite references for completely uncontroversial statements expressing common knowledge amounted over decades of scientific literature. …”

Jeremy, that does not cut it. Virology can not have a non-existent scientific base and be accepted as scientific.

Try again.

Thanks!

Steven Avery
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Steven Avery

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“Viruses are replicated in the tissues of each area of disease, such as the liver, lungs, heart, stomach, spine, and so on. Because of this, you can not normally get adequate sample sizes from mucus alone.“

These viruses are supposed to be reproducing in massive numbers, destroying host cells. So getting the tissue culture right a handful of experimental times should be trivially easy, if the theory matches the facts on the ground.

And isn’t it rather curious that the SARS-Cov-2 virus is supposed to have the ‘intelligence’ to hijacK the cell replication function of such a wide group of divergent organ cells?
 
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