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Nikolai Alexandrovich Morozov (1854-1946) Никола́й Алекса́ндрович Моро́зов;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Alexandrovich_Morozov
Пророки: история возникновения библейских пророчеств, их литературное изложение и характеристика (1914)
Prophets: history of Bible prophecies and their literary presentation and characterization
https://books.google.com/books?id=PVwOnQEACAAJ
From a Russian Forum:
Polymath N. A. Morozov, whose writings became foundation stone for all followers of alternative history and new chronology, had his own view on Tischendorf’s activities. Tischendorf brought a manuscript with Bible text from Sinai and published it in 1862 as if dated IV century. Morozov believed that Tischendorf deliberately passed the manuscript to Russian library that was far from all cultural centres and almost unreachable for European scholars at the time so they had no means to expose his plot. Morozov examined the Sinaiticus personally and saw the following:
Good discussion
http://wap.historia.forum24.ru/?1-9-0-00000006-000-0-0
Our first ref found to this at:
По вере вашей да будет вам… (Священная книга и глобальный кризис)
2009-2010
http://fanread.ru/book/7616590/?page=29
"suspiciously well preserved"
e.g. "Приведём ещё цитаты из работы ?Тишендорф в поисках подлинного Нового завета? [174] : .. Privedom yeshcho tsitaty iz raboty ?Tishendorf v poiskakh podlinnogo Novogo zaveta? [174]
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Sept 6, 2007
http://kuraev.ru/smf/index.php?topic=34111.0
Post #9 may be a different paragraph and makes some excellent points. he also goes to Uspensky 1865 and the ongoing disputes with Tischendorf. ( Uspenksy remained duped that it was ancient, he just argued maybe 700 AD) This second Morozov quote strengthens the first, has more direct science. About the need for real science microscopic .. ".. explore.... sooner or later... the whole story of the discovery is very suspicious". Compare to 2427 -
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Romanian ref to Morozov - Jan, 2016
https://martoriimincinosi.wordpress.com/2016/01/19/in-numele-minciunii-ariene-codex-sinaiticus/
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По вере вашей да будет вам.. (2010)
https://books.google.com/books?id=QXjZDs741CcC&pg=PA162
H.А.Морозов / ?Пророки?
According to your Faith Be it Unto You
http://doverchiv.narod.ru./morozov/p-00-0gl.htm
http://doverchiv.narod.ru./morozov/p-09-01.htm
Division IX. The antiquity of biblical manuscripts in European stacks
Отдел IX. О древности библейских рукописей в европейских книгохранилищах
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История человеческой культуры в естественно-научном освещении (2015)
By Морозов Н. А.
https://books.google.com/books?id=L7lqCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA390
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Alexsander is largely the same as above, he does give a Russian magazine that discusses the English Simonides issues.
http://www.aleksandrnovak.com/content/1528.html
(?3) - NA Morozov. "Prophets?, doverchiv.narod.ru.
(?4) - ?The Orthodox Review" magazine for 1862 number 9, "notes the Orthodox Review", December 1862 Topic:. "Foreign notes" on page 162 - 166. rapidshare.com.
(?4) - Журнал ?Православное обозрение? за 1862 г. № 9, ?Заметки православного обозрения?, декабрь 1862, Рубрика: ?Заграничные заметки?, стр. 162 — 166. rapidshare.com.
The scholar and lexicographer NA Morozov works, which became the basis for the lovers of alternative history and new history, had his eyes on the activities of Tischendorf. Tischendorf brought from the Sinai manuscript copy of the Bible and published it in 1862 as document IV veka.Morozov believed that Tischendorf specially handed the manuscript in Russian library, while distant from the cultural centers in which European scientists have been hard to get and expose his scam . Morozov personally inspected the Codex Sinaiticus and saw (?3), that: "Sheets of parchment in the document is not on the bottom corners istrёpany not zamusleny and fingers are clean, as it should be when the millennial use them in worship Sinai monks never differ, as well as all the Eastern monks, cleanliness. ... At that time, as the average sheet of parchment in her brand new (in the sense of unspoiled and nezamuslennosti), all initial and the last ragged and even lost ... especially interesting as it seemed to me in the Codex Sinaiticus the internal state of his parchment. Sheets him very thin, well dressed and that all striking retained its flexibility, they do not become brittle! This fact is very important to determine the antiquity.
When we are dealing with documents that really have lain millennium, even under the best climatic conditions, while often at the slightest touch to their lists, they break down into tiny pieces, as if we touched the ashes of the book, quietly decayed from the action of atmospheric oxygen ... Excellent condition of the inner sheet of the Codex Sinaiticus with obvious signs of neglect him monks disrupt his cover and break outside the sheets, it is and suggests that this manuscript got them from some pious lover of ancient religious samples already at the time when Used were new samples, t. e., after the X century. He was not spoiled in a constant reading, probably just because already become estranged to read this letter and preferred new. Only from this manuscript and preserved at Sinai to the time when it Tischendorf found there. "
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Fomenko, 1998, quotes Morozov.
https://books.google.com/books?id=osqvZTC4pysC&pg=PT12
https://books.google.com/books?id=ne1WAAAAMAAJ
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One forum, or one Morozov quote, discusses how much wear it would have even if were only used a few times a year.
One forum discusses Morozov and the occultist Blavatsky (a reference about which we have a separate thread, she said Sinaiticus had been faked based on contacts in Sinai) in the same post!
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WIP
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Alexandrovich_Morozov
Пророки: история возникновения библейских пророчеств, их литературное изложение и характеристика (1914)
Prophets: history of Bible prophecies and their literary presentation and characterization
https://books.google.com/books?id=PVwOnQEACAAJ
From a Russian Forum:
Polymath N. A. Morozov, whose writings became foundation stone for all followers of alternative history and new chronology, had his own view on Tischendorf’s activities. Tischendorf brought a manuscript with Bible text from Sinai and published it in 1862 as if dated IV century. Morozov believed that Tischendorf deliberately passed the manuscript to Russian library that was far from all cultural centres and almost unreachable for European scholars at the time so they had no means to expose his plot. Morozov examined the Sinaiticus personally and saw the following:
===============“the lower corners of the parchment sheets of the document are not frayed at all and bear no traces of greasiness and finger prints. As it should have, had the manuscript been in usage for centuries during church service by Sinai monks, who had never been remarkable for their cleanliness like all Eastern monks though…
At the same time, while the inner parchment sheets of the manuscript are utterly new (meaning with no defects and greasiness) all the front and rear cover sheets are torn and even lost… The most interesting fact about the Sinaiticus is the condition of its inner parchment. The sheets are very thin, made of elaborate leather and, what is the most peculiar, the sheets are very flexible and not at all fragile! And this circumstance is rather important for dating the manuscript.
When we are dealing with ancient documents which were kept for millenniums, even in the best climate conditions we see that even the slightest touch can turn them into dust. as if we touch ash of the book that invisibly smoldered affected by oxygen. The perfect state of the Sinaiticus inner sheets, while its covers are torn, shows that monks treated the manuscript with neglect, and suggests that the manuscript was presented to the monastery by some pious lover of old religion patterns (script) when new patterns were already in use that is after the 10th century. It was not damaged inside by constant reading possibly because monks became unaccustomed to such writing and preferred to read new patterns. Only due to this fact, the manuscript had been preserved on Sinai till the time it was found by Tischendorf.”
Morozov N.A. Proroki. Istoriya vozniknoveniya bibleyskih prorochestv, ih literaturnoe izlozhenie i characteristiki. Moscow, 1914.
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Учёный-энциклопедист Н. А. Морозов труды, которого стали основой для любителей альтернативной истории и новой хронологии, имел свой взгляд на деятельность Тишендорфа. Тишендорф привёз из Синая рукописный экземпляр Библии и напечатал его в 1862 году, как документ IV века. Морозов считал, что Тишендорф специально передал рукописи в русскую библиотеку, далёкую в то время от культурных центров, в которую европейским учёным было трудно попасть и разоблачить его афёру. Морозов лично осматривал Синайский кодекс и увидел [171] , что:
?листы пергамента у этого документа совсем не истрёпаны на нижних углах, не замуслены и не загрязнены пальцами, как это должно бы быть при тысячелетнем пользовании им в богослужении Синайскими монахами, никогда не отличавшимися, как и все восточные монахи, чистоплотностью. … В то время, как средние листы пергамента в ней совершенно новы (в смысле неиспорченности и незамусленности), все начальные и последнее оборваны и даже утрачены… Особенно же интересным показалось мне в Синайском кодексе внутреннее состояние его пергамента. Листы его очень тонки, прекрасно выделаны и, что всего поразительнее, сохранили свою гибкость, нисколько не сделались хрупкими! А это обстоятельство очень важно для определения древности.
Когда мы имеем дело с документами, действительно пролежавшими тысячелетие, хотя бы при самых лучших климатических условиях, тогда часто, при малейшем прикосновении к их листам, они ломаются на мельчайшие кусочки, как будто бы мы тронули пепел книги, незаметно истлевшей от действия атмосферного кислорода … Прекрасное состояние внутренних листов Синайского кодекса при явных следах небрежного обращения с ним монахов, сорвавших его переплет и оборвавших наружные листы, именно и наводит на мысль, что эта рукопись досталась им от какого-нибудь благочестивого любителя древне-религиозных образцов уже в то время, когда в употреблении были новые образцы, т. е. после X века. Его не испортили внутри постоянным чтением, вероятно, именно потому, что уже отвыкли читать такое письмо и предпочитали новое. Только от этого рукопись и сохранилась на Синае до времени, когда её нашёл там Тишендорф?.
Морозов также высказывается о Ленинградском кодексе, найденном Фирковичем:
?Я осматривал материал этой книги и пришёл относительно его качеств к тем же заключениям, какие высказал уже здесь по поводу Синайского кодекса: листы её слишком гибки для необычной старины?.
Good discussion
http://wap.historia.forum24.ru/?1-9-0-00000006-000-0-0
Our first ref found to this at:
По вере вашей да будет вам… (Священная книга и глобальный кризис)
2009-2010
http://fanread.ru/book/7616590/?page=29
"suspiciously well preserved"
e.g. "Приведём ещё цитаты из работы ?Тишендорф в поисках подлинного Нового завета? [174] : .. Privedom yeshcho tsitaty iz raboty ?Tishendorf v poiskakh podlinnogo Novogo zaveta? [174]
===============
Sept 6, 2007
http://kuraev.ru/smf/index.php?topic=34111.0
Post #9 may be a different paragraph and makes some excellent points. he also goes to Uspensky 1865 and the ongoing disputes with Tischendorf. ( Uspenksy remained duped that it was ancient, he just argued maybe 700 AD) This second Morozov quote strengthens the first, has more direct science. About the need for real science microscopic .. ".. explore.... sooner or later... the whole story of the discovery is very suspicious". Compare to 2427 -
===============
Romanian ref to Morozov - Jan, 2016
https://martoriimincinosi.wordpress.com/2016/01/19/in-numele-minciunii-ariene-codex-sinaiticus/
===============
По вере вашей да будет вам.. (2010)
https://books.google.com/books?id=QXjZDs741CcC&pg=PA162
H.А.Морозов / ?Пророки?
According to your Faith Be it Unto You
http://doverchiv.narod.ru./morozov/p-00-0gl.htm
http://doverchiv.narod.ru./morozov/p-09-01.htm
Division IX. The antiquity of biblical manuscripts in European stacks
Отдел IX. О древности библейских рукописей в европейских книгохранилищах
===============
История человеческой культуры в естественно-научном освещении (2015)
By Морозов Н. А.
https://books.google.com/books?id=L7lqCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA390
===============
Alexsander is largely the same as above, he does give a Russian magazine that discusses the English Simonides issues.
http://www.aleksandrnovak.com/content/1528.html
(?3) - NA Morozov. "Prophets?, doverchiv.narod.ru.
(?4) - ?The Orthodox Review" magazine for 1862 number 9, "notes the Orthodox Review", December 1862 Topic:. "Foreign notes" on page 162 - 166. rapidshare.com.
(?4) - Журнал ?Православное обозрение? за 1862 г. № 9, ?Заметки православного обозрения?, декабрь 1862, Рубрика: ?Заграничные заметки?, стр. 162 — 166. rapidshare.com.
The scholar and lexicographer NA Morozov works, which became the basis for the lovers of alternative history and new history, had his eyes on the activities of Tischendorf. Tischendorf brought from the Sinai manuscript copy of the Bible and published it in 1862 as document IV veka.Morozov believed that Tischendorf specially handed the manuscript in Russian library, while distant from the cultural centers in which European scientists have been hard to get and expose his scam . Morozov personally inspected the Codex Sinaiticus and saw (?3), that: "Sheets of parchment in the document is not on the bottom corners istrёpany not zamusleny and fingers are clean, as it should be when the millennial use them in worship Sinai monks never differ, as well as all the Eastern monks, cleanliness. ... At that time, as the average sheet of parchment in her brand new (in the sense of unspoiled and nezamuslennosti), all initial and the last ragged and even lost ... especially interesting as it seemed to me in the Codex Sinaiticus the internal state of his parchment. Sheets him very thin, well dressed and that all striking retained its flexibility, they do not become brittle! This fact is very important to determine the antiquity.
When we are dealing with documents that really have lain millennium, even under the best climatic conditions, while often at the slightest touch to their lists, they break down into tiny pieces, as if we touched the ashes of the book, quietly decayed from the action of atmospheric oxygen ... Excellent condition of the inner sheet of the Codex Sinaiticus with obvious signs of neglect him monks disrupt his cover and break outside the sheets, it is and suggests that this manuscript got them from some pious lover of ancient religious samples already at the time when Used were new samples, t. e., after the X century. He was not spoiled in a constant reading, probably just because already become estranged to read this letter and preferred new. Only from this manuscript and preserved at Sinai to the time when it Tischendorf found there. "
==========
Fomenko, 1998, quotes Morozov.
https://books.google.com/books?id=osqvZTC4pysC&pg=PT12
https://books.google.com/books?id=ne1WAAAAMAAJ
==========
One forum, or one Morozov quote, discusses how much wear it would have even if were only used a few times a year.
One forum discusses Morozov and the occultist Blavatsky (a reference about which we have a separate thread, she said Sinaiticus had been faked based on contacts in Sinai) in the same post!
==========
WIP
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