Norway conference - Malcolm Choat and Tommy Wasserman on Simonides issues

[Steven Avery]

You can see two new presentations discussing Simonides here:

CONFERENCE in Kristiansand, NOR, "The Lying Pen of Scribes"
http://papyrology.blogspot.nl/

Malcolm Choat (Macquarie University), “From Constantine Simonides to the Gospel of Jesus' Wife: the Authentication of Papyri and Development of Palaeography”

Tommy Wasserman (?rebro School of Theology and Ansgar School of Theology), “Simonides Forgeries of New Testament Manuscripts in the Mayer Collection”

Macquarie University is also the locale of Brent Nongbri, the Bible and manuscript scholars there seem to be quite sharp (irrespective of differing personal faith positions.)

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The conference used the modern version mistranslation of:

Jeremiah 8:8
How do ye say,
We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us?
Lo, certainly in vain made he it;
the pen of the scribes is in vain.

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Steven Avery

 

[Steven Avery]

Norway conference on forgeries and counterfeiting scripture


Highlighting what look like the most interesting papers.

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Manuscript Forgeries and Counterfeiting Scripture in the Twenty-First Century
"The Lying Pen of Scribes" (Jer. 8.8)
Kristiansand, Norway
April 13-15, 2016
http://www.uia.no/arrangementer/the-lying-pen-of-scribes-jer.-8.8
http://papyrology.blogspot.com/2016/04/conference-in-kristiansand-nor-lying.html
pics and info and some discussion
https://www.facebook.com/lyingpen/timeline?ref=page_internal
https://m.facebook.com/lyingpen/?hc_location=ufi

Amanda Davis Bledsoe (Ludwig-Maximilians-Universit?t M?nchen), “The Gabriel Vision: ‘A Dead Sea Scroll on Stone’ or a Modern Forgery?”

Malcolm Choat (Macquarie University), "Forging Antiquity: An overview of the Project"
Malcolm Choat (Macquarie University), “From Constantine Simonides to the Gospel of Jesus' Wife: the Authentication of Papyri and Development of Palaeography”

Kipp Davis (Trinity Western University), “The Lying Pen of Scribes: A New Research Project”
Kipp Davis (Trinity Western University), “Working with Judaean Desert Manuscript Fragments on a Digital Platform”

Torleif Elgvin (NLA University College), “‘Nobody Knows the Troubles I’ve Seen’: About Access to Dead Sea Scroll Fragments in Private and Public Collections”

?rstein Justnes and Line Reichelt F?reland (University of Agder), “How to Construct Provenance: Three Example”

Liv Ingeborg Lied (MF Norwegian School of Theology), “Studying Fakes Without Faking It: Some Fresh Theoretical Perspectives”

Alison Schofield (University of Denver), “The Shapira Affair: Were Lost Dead Sea Scrolls Discovered in 1883?”

Tommy Wasserman (?rebro School of Theology and Ansgar School of Theology), “Simonides Forgeries of New Testament Manuscripts in the Mayer Collection”

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Tor Vegge (University of Agder), ”Fictional Author and Authenticity in New Testament Letters”

Other participants:
Sony George, NTNU – Norwegian University of Science and Technology
Hugo Lundhaug, University of Oslo
Hallvard Hagelia, ansgar School of Theology

Morten Klepp Beckmann, University of Agder
Beat Art on Campus, a Tour (Frida Forsgren, University of Agder)

 

[Steven Avery]

"Markers of Authenticity" - MQACRC at Macquarie University, Sydney Australia


Related to this is:

Ancient Cultures Research Center - Macquarie University - MQACRC
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=712797168862598&id=537218006420516&refid=17&_ft_=top_level_post_id.712797168862598%3Atl_objid.712797168862598%3Athid.537218006420516%3A306061129499414%3A2%3A0%3A1462085999%3A2748109162384194056&__tn__=*s

The MQ Ancient Cultures Research Centre Seminar series on "Markers of Authenticity" continues this Friday 29th April, at 4.00-5.30 pm, in the Museum of Ancient Cultures Seminar Room (X5B 321), with the following paper. All welcome!

Lucas Lixinski ( Faculty of Law, UNSW)“A Tale of Two Heritages: Claims of Ownership over Intangible Cultural Heritage and the Myth of ‘Authenticity’.”

In this paper, Lucas will explore some of the politics of authenticity, from the perspective of cultural heritage management. The vocabulary of “authenticity” is an integral part of processes around World Heritage sites, and, because of the pervasiveness of this instrument, the terminology has also impacted other domains of cultural heritage safeguarding. Lucas argues that a focus on authenticity can be problematic from the perspective of local communities and other traditional owners, at least inasmuch as experts tend to have a monopoly on ascertaining “authenticity”.

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Ancient Cultures Research Center - Macquarie University - MQACRC

The MQ Ancient Cultures Research Centre Seminar series on "Markers of Authenticity" continues this Friday 1st April, at 4.00-5.30 pm, in the Museum of Ancient Cultures Seminar Room (X5B 321), with the following paper. All welcome!

Malcolm Choat (Dept. of Ancient History, Macquarie University)
“What is a forgery? Constantine Simonides, the Joseph Mayer papyri, and Hermippus of Beirut.”

This paper will continue the discussion of authenticity, and how to frame the search for it, raised in the first seminar in the series, extending the discussion of authenticity beyond the material level to take in issues of authorship and creative practice. The paper will discuss these issues via an investigation of the prolific mid-19th century forger Constantine Simonides, and the many papyri forged by him now in the World Museum, Liverpool, including alleged early copies of the New Testament, Greek historical works, and an autograph letter of Hermippus of Beirut which purports to explain the true meaning of the Egyptian language.

 

[Steven Avery]

https://www.sbl-site.org/meetings/Congresses_Abstracts.aspx?MeetingId=31 The Cable Guy: Constantine Simonides and His New Testament Papyri Program Unit: Papyrology and Early Christian Backgrounds Malcolm Choat, Macquarie University Self-styled polymath and manuscript expert Constantine Simonides is perhaps best known in biblical circles for his claim to have written Codex Sinaiticus himself in the 1840s. Yet this much-debated assertion is only one part of Simonides’ interaction with the New Testament. From the biblical papyri he discovered (by writing them himself, according to his critics) among the collection of Liverpudlian jeweler and antiquities collector Joseph Mayer late 1850s, showing some readings unlike any other manuscripts, a trail can be charted back to Simonides’ earlier theories about the New Testament. Through an examination of Simonides’ biblical forgeries and an investigation of their textual basis, this paper contextualises their production and publication within Simonides’ own project to reveal hidden truths about early Christianity, and examines them within the context of his wider program of historical revisionism, charting the development of the narrative Simonides crafted, both about the New Testament text itself, and his role in uncovering it.

 

[Steven Avery]

We would like to find quotes by Wasserman that denigrate Simonides doing Sinaiticus based on the Mayer papyri.

This is refuted by 5024 at Mt. Athos