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Steven Avery

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Kalkas

New member
Hello,

I have a question concerning the Hebrew text underlying the KJV. I have realized that Leningrad Codex was not part of the MT edition underlying KJV (the text of Jacob ben Hayyim). What about Aleppo Codex?

According to the article “Why God’s Name is not Yehovah,”

In the Aleppo and Leningrad codices, יהוה appears with a variety of different vowel markings. Most of the time it appears with only two vowels, whether that be sheva-qamets (יְהוָה) or sheva-chiriq (יְהוִה). Many other times it appears with three vowels, whether that is sheva-cholem-qamets (יְהֹוָה) or sheva-cholem-chiriq (יְהֹוִה). Other variations appear less frequently, such as chatef segol-cholem-chiriq (יֱהֹוִה), which occurs once,and chatef segol-chiriq (יֱהוִה), which occurs twice.

Those variations that point to Elohim have very few times the expected chatef segal (which is the first vowel of Elohim), but mostly sheva. This would support the view that vowel changes were present even when used in ketiv-qere. I wonder whether the MT underlying KJV was different with that regard, i.e., the vowel chatef segal appeared frequently when pointing to read Elohim?

I have to concede that my principal reason for preferring Yehovah/Jehovah is that KJV supports it. I am also of firm belief that KJV translators knew about the scribal practice of ketiv-qere; just observe the translators’ own practice in that they used small caps LORD and GOD instead of translating in all instances with “Jehovah.” Why would they use LORD and GOD unless they were familiar with the scribal practise in question? That tells me that they had very good reasons to accept the name “Jehovah” as the sacred name of the God of the Bible.

Kind regards,
Aleksandar
 

Kalkas

New member
Hello agin,

I am a little bit uncertain how to regard the Leningrad codex. I regard the Masoretic Text of Jacob Ben Chayyim as the Received Text of the Hebrew Scriptures. But I am not so certain how to regard editions after KJV. I am very skeptical towards Rudolph Kittel’s edition, which is much based upon the Leningrad Codex. Dr. D. A. Waite expressed some concerns about it, see the article on the Textus Receptus site. How is your take on it?

Kind regards,
Aleksandar
 

Steven Avery

Administrator
I think the printed edition of the Bomberg 2nd Rabbinic Bible (maybe the first as well) standardized on the correct vowels most of the time. sheva-cholem-qamets

However, that should be checked, I can ask on the Facebook forum.

The learned men of the AV did not just use the 2nd Rabbinic, that is a myth. It is lacuna at the Joshua 21:36-37 verses (with a note). Has the wrong text on Psalm 22:16. I can check the Nehemiah 7:68 verse. A question on 1 Samuel 6:19.

They had access to about a dozen Masoretic editions, at least. And likely manuscripts.
 
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Steven Avery

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Psalm 22:16 - the Ben Hayim rabbinic Bible and the Drusius report
https://www.purebibleforum.com/inde...m-rabbinic-bible-and-the-drusius-report.1673/

Masoretic Text == Textus Receptus (OT) and first use Textus Receptus and Received Text
https://www.purebibleforum.com/inde...t-use-textus-receptus-and-received-text.1633/

I may be able to find more.
Here is one.

Facebook - Textus Receptus Academy
https://upload.facebook.com/groups/...k/756858895159975/?comment_id=758373805008484

I'll ask Nick Sayers to update the textus-receptus site.
 
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