the correspondence of Paul and Seneca - Rufus Pudens Pudentius

Steven Avery

Barbara Thiering claimed authentic.

Paul and Seneca in Dialogue (2017)
David Briones

The Correspondence between Saint Apostle Paul and Seneca (2010)
Sergei Rjabchikov -

Final Decade Before the End - Jewish and Christian History Just Before the Final Revolt
Edward Stevens - sent note in



To Edward Stevens

Hi Edward, greetings!
Nice paper, chronology etc.
I was wondering if anyone has gone through that Barbara Thiering material about the authenticity of the Paul and Seneca correspondence. I may have that yahoogroups stuff on my other puter.
And what is your thinking?
Steven Avery
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Steven Avery

Rome: an early persecutor of the church? (1982)
Samuele R. Bacchiocchi (1938-2008)

The late Christian tradition of an alleged correspondence between Paul and Seneca suggests the possibility that Seneca became acquainted with Paul, especially since Seneca's beloved brother, Gallic, did hear and acquit Paul in Corinth in A.D. 51 and since Paul himself claimed to have had Christian friends within "Caesar's household" (Phil. 4:22).

Philippians 4:22 (AV)
All the saints salute you,
chiefly they that are of Caesar's household.

Acts 18:12-17 (AV)
And when Gallio was the deputy of Achaia, the Jews made insurrection with one accord against Paul, and brought him to the judgment seat, Saying, This fellow persuadeth men to worship God contrary to the law.

And when Paul was now about to open his mouth, Gallio said unto the Jews, If it were a matter of wrong or wicked lewdness, O ye Jews, reason would that I should bear with you: But if it be a question of words and names, and of your law, look ye to it; for I will be no judge of such matters. And he drave them from the judgment seat. Then all the Greeks took Sosthenes, the chief ruler of the synagogue, and beat him before the judgment seat. And Gallio cared for none of those things.

The proconsul of Achaia, Junius Lucius Gallic (brother of Seneca), ignored the charge leveled by the Jews in Corinth against Paul, of "persuading men to worship God contrary to the law" (Acts 18:12), declaring the matter to be merely "questions about words and names and your own [Jewish] law" (verse 15).
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Steven Avery


What is interesting here, is that Hermas, the author of the work, may have known the apostle Paul, for Paul mentions a Hermas in one of his letters:
Greet Rufus, chosen in the Lord; also his mother, who has been a mother to me as well. Greet Asyncritus, Phlegon, Hermes, Patrobas, Hermas, and the brothers who are with them. (Rom. 16:13-14)
As a side note, what many people do not realize is that Rufus is one Rufus Pudens Pudentius, a Roman Senator thats known in Roman history. He and the apostle Paul were likely half brothers. Rufus married one Claudia, also mentioned in the epistle of Romans, who was of British royalty (see British Royalty: Founders of the Roman Church). So Hermas is likely a real person as well who lived in Rome, and as early as the 2nd century there was a tradition that it was this same Hermas who wrote The Shepherd of Hermas.