two lines - two streams - two trees ( from Benjamin Wilkinson )

Steven Avery

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Here is a little history of showing two stream problems.

Glenn Conjurske (1947-2001)
Doug Kutilek
Rick Norris

challenged the two streams concepts.

And I noticed that in important points they were right. The idea of putting the Old Latin with the good guys and Vulgate as bad was clearly false, and already falsified the charts.

We had learned that the Vulgate was a positive force in 1500s TR development, a partner with the Greek preservation.

And I started stating this publicly no later than 2010, one of the Baptist forums remains up.

Also I worked out how Benjamin Wilkinson brought this forth, how it fit with Adventist positions that emphasize the Waldensians, and with some complexity, how he twisted and mangled the scholarship of Frederick Nolan.

Lots of this I placed on the purebibleforum.

two lines - two streams - two trees ( from Benjamin Wilkinson )
https://www.purebibleforum.com/inde...ms-two-trees-from-benjamin-wilkinson.73/#post

Tepl mythology from Benjamin Wilkinson - part of two streams
https://www.purebibleforum.com/inde...-benjamin-wilkinson-part-of-two-streams.2777/

And then Bryan Ross took lots of this to new levels in recent years, and generally helping instruct the AV defender audience,
 
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Steven Avery

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Bryan Ross
The two streams of bibles model
https://gracelifebiblechurch.com/wp...bles-Model-of-Transmission-Complete-Notes.pdf

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Steven Avery

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Bryan Ross
https://gracelifebiblechurch.com/wp...bles-Model-of-Transmission-Complete-Notes.pdf
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Pastor Bryan Ross GRACELIFEBIBLECHURCH.COM
Sunday, May 26, 2019— Grace Life School of Theology—From This Generation For Ever
Lesson 89 The Two Streams of Bibles Model of Transmission: Its Origins & Accuracy, Part 3
(Old Latin vs. Latin Vulgate Dichotomy)

In the Pure Bible Facebook Group, I was able to interact with researcher Steven Avery. As it
turned out, Avery also had misgivings about the “two streams of Bibles” model but for different
reasons. Instead of questioning the paradigm via the Gothic and Peshitta translations as I had,
Avery’s doubts were primarily centered around what he perceived to be false dichotomy between
the Old Latin and Latin Vulgate. Moreover, Avery also expressed misgivings regarding
Benjamin Wilkinson, the fountainhead of the “two streams” notion and his ties to 7th Day
Adventism. In this Lesson we deal with the dichotomy between the Old Latin and the Vulgate.
Next week in Lesson 90 we will address the Adventism of Wilkinson and the paradigm’s origins.

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Testing The Hark Chart
James Snapp, Jr.
www.thetextofthegospels.com

Testing the Hark Chart

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Steven Avery said...
Thanks!

Just commenting on the Hark Chart, this is something that I have been writing about for c. 10 years, this chart and others that are similar "two lines" or "two streams" analysis.

James has occasionally pointed out the problems, even back to 2014 or earlier. And two AV-contras, Doug Kutilek and Rick Norris, really helped in the correction, by pointing out the fact that you cannot put the Old Latin in a different line than the Vulgate.

The original problem goes back to Benjamin Wilkinson (1872 -1968), who mangled the excellent theories of Frederick Nolan (1784-1864)to try to fit them in with the Adventist (and sometimes Baptist) super-focus on the Waldenses. Thus they wanted the Waldenses to be on the good Old Latin line. All this was passed down by David Otis Fuller (1903-1988) to many of the name AV defenders. Note, this is not in the writings of Edward Freer Hills (1912-1981).

Bryan Ross neatly followed up and expanded on my writings:

The Two Streams of Bibles Model of Transmission: Its Origins & Accuracy

March 22, 2020 at 3:05 PM

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CARM - Rick Norris
Bryan Ross mentioned your name in the third volume of his book From This Generation For Ever Volume 3: Canonicity & Transmission.
https://forums.carm.org/threads/unt...in-kjv-only-argumentation.23136/#post-1747687
 
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