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BVBD
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/bib...s-kjvos-begin-to-abando-t6307-s30.html#p81185
and TRA
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Notes and Criticisms on Theodore P. Letis' Book,
Edward Freer Hill's Contribution to the Revival of the Ecclesiastical Text
by Doug Kutilek
http://web.archive.org/web/20040407223513/http://www.kjvonly.org/doug/notes_theodore_letis_book.html
Holy Word Cafe
Hills Revisited By Jon Whitmer
http://www.holywordcafe.com/bible/resources/HILLSREVISITED.pdf
2. Kutilek contends that Hills defends the Johannine Comma as “unquestionably original.”
Hills’ approach is to argue for its potential originality by way of external evidence. There is a large difference between Hills’ actual discussion of the johannine comma and Kutilek’s negative reference to it. Letis’ disagreement with Hills regarding the Johannine comma (and Kutilek does not even cite a place in the book where Letis actually “backs away” from Hills’ defense of the Johannine comma) by no means even implies “that Letis had questions at times as to Hills' ability to credibly reason with regard to variant readings and manuscript evidence.” Letis’ own words are particularly informative: (continues)
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While Letis had an implied negativity to the verse, Kutilek was simply an arrogant smart-ass, trying to foist his deficient views on Letis.
BVBD
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/bib...s-kjvos-begin-to-abando-t6307-s30.html#p81185
and TRA
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Notes and Criticisms on Theodore P. Letis' Book,
Edward Freer Hill's Contribution to the Revival of the Ecclesiastical Text
by Doug Kutilek
http://web.archive.org/web/20040407223513/http://www.kjvonly.org/doug/notes_theodore_letis_book.html
Kutilek stupidity
And the fact that even Letis backs away from Hill's defence of the possible genuineness of I John 5:7 shows that Letis had questions at times as to Hills' ability to credibly reason with regard to variant readings and manuscript evidence. (Of 350+ surviving Greek manuscripts of I John, only 4 contain the passage in question in the text, and these differ among themselves in their precise wording; 4 other manuscripts have the verse written in the margin. All these manuscripts give evidence of tampering or deliberate late [even 17th century in some cases] insertion. No Greek father before the 13th century ever quotes the verse; no ancient translation includes the verse except the Latin, and there in only a minority of Old Latin manuscripts, and only in some late Vulgate manuscripts Jerome did not include it in the original Vulgate. The words can be traced to an allegorical application of v. 8 by Cyprian in the 3rd century. Yet in spite of all this evidence, Hills defended the words as possibly, even probably genuine!!!!).
Holy Word Cafe
Hills Revisited By Jon Whitmer
http://www.holywordcafe.com/bible/resources/HILLSREVISITED.pdf
2. Kutilek contends that Hills defends the Johannine Comma as “unquestionably original.”
.. .The fact that even Letis backs away from Hill's defense of the possible genuineness of I John 5:7
shows that Letis had questions at times as to Hills' ability to credibly reason with regard to variant
readings and manuscript evidence.... The words can be traced to an allegorical application of v. 8
by Cyprian in the 3rd century. Yet in spite of all this evidence, Hills defended the words as
possibly, even probably genuine!!!!
[On page] 96 The list of passages Dabney objects to changing in the t.r. is clear evidence of his
ignorance of the facts in the case—the evidence against the genuineness of I John 5:7 is
overwhelming...
Also, I John 5:7 is absent from around 350 Greek manuscripts, and present in only four in the text
and another four in the margin, with all 8 of these being late and suspect of deliberate scribal
corruption.
Hills’ approach is to argue for its potential originality by way of external evidence. There is a large difference between Hills’ actual discussion of the johannine comma and Kutilek’s negative reference to it. Letis’ disagreement with Hills regarding the Johannine comma (and Kutilek does not even cite a place in the book where Letis actually “backs away” from Hills’ defense of the Johannine comma) by no means even implies “that Letis had questions at times as to Hills' ability to credibly reason with regard to variant readings and manuscript evidence.” Letis’ own words are particularly informative: (continues)
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While Letis had an implied negativity to the verse, Kutilek was simply an arrogant smart-ass, trying to foist his deficient views on Letis.
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