Heavenly Witnesses

the fulcrum verse of the pure Bible debate, in memory of Michael Maynard

Grantley McDonald - Raising the Ghost of Arius

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Grantley McDonald - BCEME - corrigenda

super evidences - solecism, Cyprian, Jerome, more

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  1. solecism in short Critical Text with only earthly
  2. Cyprian - (super evidences, external)
  3. Jerome's Vulgate Prologue (super evidence)
  4. Council of Carthage 484 AD (super evidence)
  5. Old Latin & Vulgate mss & ECW (super-evidence)
  6. discussions of super-evidences and authenticity
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powerful evidences that join with the super-dupers

century by century 1500s to 2000s

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  1. 1500s (excluding Erasmus)
  2. 1600s
  3. 1700s
  4. 1800s
  5. 1900s
  6. 2000s
  7. post 2000-AD discussions
  8. heavenly witnesses debate 1600-1900
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Puxanto on heavenly witnesses - Italian Wikipedia

early evidences - ECW and ms. - Greek, Latin, Syri

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  2. Greek ECW evidences
  3. ms and ECW evidences
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Arians sing hymn against "three are one" - La Cava - Cavensis "audiat hoc Arius et ceteri" - "...where are they that affirm that the Three are One?"

Medieval and Ante-Reformation church writers

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Giannozzo Manetti (1396-1459) - Latin NT

Erasmus and the heavenly witnesses

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Basilios Bessarion

Papers, Articles, Journals, blogs forums

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Jonathan Sheehan sections in The Englightenment Bible

Defenders

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Francis Turretin and the heavenly witnesses and the Sixtus Senensis ms question

theories of omission or inclusion

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methodology flaw in Critical Text editions - inclusion / omission seen the same as alternate variants

special questions and more

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the spirit, and the water, and the blood - small "s" - earthly witnesses - Gospel verse confirmations!

Latin Manuscripts

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the earliest extant Vetus Latina heavenly witnesses manuscripts
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why I am skeptical of claims on both sides of the heavenly witnesses authenticity
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Adam Clarke followed by Dobbin on Montfortianus
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erasure by Arians and Pneumatomachi - John 3:6 - John 4:24 - 1 John 4:3 - claims on heavenly witnesses
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all the invisible allegories, writer and text
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allegorical (Trinitarian) interpetation in RGA and BCEME - Richard Simon and Greek mss.
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why don't we have early full quotes of the heavenly witnesses verse?
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Hesychius of Jerusalem
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'rogue’s gallery' of those accuses of fabricating the heavenly witnesses verse
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water, flesh and blood - Priscillian's earthly witnesses
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library destructions and movement of manuscripts to Spain
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Son (filio) rather than Word
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Markus Vinzent on Roman Christology - From Zephyrinus to Damasus
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Richard Porson complains of defenders who simply accept the verse
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three in substance
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Compare Cyprian, Leo Greek at Chalcedon, and Athanasius Disputation Greek and Latin
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Hug hypothesis, also Wucherer, on 1John relation to Gospel as epistle dedicatory.
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Christ is the truth - Christus est veritas
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where are there evidences with varying manuscripts - inclusion and omission? Council of Ephesus AD 431 - Eucherius - Cyril - De Trinitate - Euthymius
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notes on Greek manuscripts (beyond the Elijah Hixson paper)
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June 20, 2022 - heavenly witnesses stuff that is WIP
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